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Re: Opinions on Trump Speech?
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2016, 11:39:25 am »
sqlbullet is correct. British common law caused and was reacted to by the Founders in writing both the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution.

http://www.libertylawsite.org/liberty-forum/why-you-cant-understand-the-constitution-without-the-common-law/

and King George's decrees governing the American colonists were often in violation of British common law and even the magna carta
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    « Reply #51 on: July 28, 2016, 12:28:45 pm »
    Basically, they didn't start from scratch when crafting our own legal system; they copied parts of British common law whole cloth.

    Why reinvent the wheel?

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    « Reply #52 on: July 28, 2016, 01:07:53 pm »
    I have acknowledged the fact that they didn't start from scratch.  To use your idiom: They didn't reinvent the wheel, they made it better, by putting rubber on it.
    I'm simply making an argument for a different point of view.  It's all of this legalese BS, that has gotten us into this fix in the first place.
    It is my stance, that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and given the fact that our founding fathers had just fought a war, and an insurrection, I'm taking the stance that they were trying to set themselves as far apart as they could from the British Empire.  To me, using some long dead British author's (mind you he was not even a statesman) definitions, and 260ish year old British common law in what is an attempt to mirror the very reason for that war I mentioned earlier is a great misjustice .  It doesn't matter to me that Georgie may have violated them, I am sure he believed he had every authority to act as he did, because he believed that the colonies were subjects of the crown.  I believe that our founding fathers were being explicit when they formed the Constitution.

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    Re: Opinions on Trump Speech?
    « Reply #53 on: July 28, 2016, 01:14:23 pm »
    Yes, but the Constitution is based on that law.

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    « Reply #54 on: July 28, 2016, 01:18:13 pm »
    Damn :facepalm  "Based on," not mirror of.

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    « Reply #55 on: July 28, 2016, 01:28:13 pm »
    Look, our government is fuct.  We need a fresh perspective, and to bring us back on topic, I believe Trump/Pence is the only choice.  I consider Cruz to be wholly disqualified for the office of President of the United States. Trump won the nomination, let's give him a chance.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.  I'll be the first to say it.  But Clinton is a disaster waiting in the wings.  And I'm not willing to waste my vote on a third party with no mathematical path to the Whitehouse.

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    « Reply #56 on: July 28, 2016, 01:39:32 pm »
    Trump/Pence is the only real option for me.  But, it is no more a choice than a shotgun wedding.  Both parties have fielded candidates that well and truly nauseate me.  The only redeeming plank in Trumps platform that gets him my vote is 2A.

    And I have no confidence he will do good for my gun rights, just less bad than Clinton.

    And his speeches always make me feel ill.  This one was no different.
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    « Reply #57 on: July 28, 2016, 01:42:34 pm »
    I can get behind that.

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    « Reply #58 on: July 29, 2016, 11:27:12 pm »
    Agreed. 
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