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New World Order - OSHA Complies
« on: August 06, 2013, 06:16:46 pm »
I recently had to take a class to be in compliance with new OSHA standards, had to be done by 12/1/13.
For those unfamiliar, OSHA has a system called "hazcom" or Hazardous Communications. This pertains to labeling, and safety sheets for the transportation and use of "hazardous substances".
The NEW standard is the "HAZCOM and Globally Harmonized System (GHS)" system of signs, labels and placards. The old Material Data Safety Sheets (or MSDS) are now the "Safety Data Sheet" (SDS).
Not going to go deep into it, but the dumbing down of the world and worker has started. The SDS has 16 sections, arranged in a specific , and "world wide" sequence with 9 "pictograms" showing the hazards of the contained substance. I don't mind the standard and specific sequence, heck I don't even mind everything in the same order now; but jeez I hate that name "Globally Harmonized System".  Just kind of grates on my nerves.
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    Re: New World Order - OSHA Complies
    « Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 08:36:04 pm »
      What difference does a name make?

     
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    « Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 09:38:04 pm »
    MSDS is bulls___ anyway...I hate having to keep up with that insane crap.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 04:35:31 am »
    Yep, there is an MSDS for table salt.  You are not supposed to breathe it in, get it in your eyes or on your skin.  Or ingest large quantities.  Or let spills get into the sewer system.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 09:42:05 am »
      What difference does a name make?


    basically,  everyone calls it by the exact same name.  worldwide.  it has the same symbol, the same reactions listed, the same response for a spill or a release, and it does not matter where in the world it occurs.   
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    « Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 11:27:53 am »
    MSDS for H2O as well...
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    « Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 12:03:42 pm »
    MSDS for H2O as well...

    hey,  that's some nasty stuff.

    http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html



        Dihydrogen monoxide:

            is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
            contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
            may cause severe burns.
            is fatal if inhaled.
            contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
            accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
            may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
            has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

        Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

            as an industrial solvent and coolant.
            in nuclear power plants.
            in the production of Styrofoam.
            as a fire retardant.
            in many forms of cruel animal research.
            in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
            as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 07, 2013, 03:15:33 pm »
    MSDS is bulls___ anyway...I hate having to keep up with that insane crap.

    I agree. In 22 years as a cop, I've never used it. My little orange book is somewhere in the very bottom of my cargo area. We joke that the yearly haz-mat in-service class is the only time cops actually have to listen to a fireman.

    I have no problem with the universal aspect of it no matter what touchy feely give-the-world-a-hug name they give it.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2013, 11:00:39 pm »
    I was out on the day that the Safety Officer was chosen, so I am it :facepalm  I thought I would be moved so have not looked at the changes. :banghead  Now I guess that gets added to my list.  I think most of the MSDS's I downloaded are 2013 compliant.
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    « Reply #9 on: August 08, 2013, 05:20:38 pm »
    I did agree to be Safety Officer as it made my job full time.  No complaints on the office work on rainy days.  I just wish that I had got some training on what all I am supposed to do, not just figure it out on my own.  This is a good gig as it pays well most places and there are good opportunities for work, and it is a long term job not like many in construction.  I am behind due to my procrastination, and other work responsibilities. 
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    « Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 10:06:58 am »
    Talk to your companies insurance provider.  They will have a risk management branch and probably will offer training on what you need to do and look for.  They will possibly provide a discount to the company if you have a proactive safety program up and running, which could be a nice touch for you with upper management.




    I did agree to be Safety Officer as it made my job full time.  No complaints on the office work on rainy days.  I just wish that I had got some training on what all I am supposed to do, not just figure it out on my own.  This is a good gig as it pays well most places and there are good opportunities for work, and it is a long term job not like many in construction.  I am behind due to my procrastination, and other work responsibilities.
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    « Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 02:11:00 pm »
    I work for a second class city.  Three full time, two part time employee, no city manager right now, so no real leadership.  I am in touch with our insurance provider, and have a basic plan in place.  I am thinking about a more general safety plan, in conjunction with community emergency plan.  Also there is no training budget for us peons, and it is about $1000 rt to get to nearest training.  I have to go to Juneau for family stuff this week and that is about $1500 and I am not leaving the state.
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    « Reply #12 on: August 09, 2013, 06:29:43 pm »
    The issue with things like this has little to do with ground level compliance, although Mikee5star seems to be in a bind.

    Where stuff like this will really fluff us up is in trade, transport, and commerce.

    The move behind this is basically harmonizing global inter-modal transport of materials.

    Meaning that a particular material is treated the same if it is being transported on a plane, a truck, a ship, or a train.

    In theory, this is a good thing.  It streamlines paperwork, etc...  The reality is that it raises expenses.

    In the customs or shipping office, it is very good.  It's one set of paperwork instead of twenty. Costs and office staff go down.  Yay!  Let's lay off staff and pad the fluff out of our retirement fund!

    For the consumer, it means something different. 
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    « Reply #13 on: August 09, 2013, 07:06:52 pm »
    I work for a city in Kansas.  We have monthly training conducted by a organization (Kansas municipal utilities) which results in a refund of insurance premiums every year,  to the tune of about $20,000.00 a year,  from EMC (Employers mutual) because of the risk management issues.

     

    I work for a second class city.  Three full time, two part time employee, no city manager right now, so no real leadership.  I am in touch with our insurance provider, and have a basic plan in place.  I am thinking about a more general safety plan, in conjunction with community emergency plan.  Also there is no training budget for us peons, and it is about $1000 rt to get to nearest training.  I have to go to Juneau for family stuff this week and that is about $1500 and I am not leaving the state.
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    « Reply #14 on: August 09, 2013, 10:19:12 pm »
    Chief45, we have a similar program that I participate in with AMLJIA, our insurance provider.  In addition to refund they also put money in a account for safety materials/training aids.  I hope we have a session for the new regs.  In theory I like MSDS, but until now I never had a job with the time to even look at them.  I was known as Safety Last on my last job.  No injuries beyond minor stitches in my life.   ;)  I have not even fallen off a roof in the last 5 years. 
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    « Reply #15 on: August 10, 2013, 01:21:11 am »
    Chief45, we have a similar program that I participate in with AMLJIA, our insurance provider.  In addition to refund they also put money in a account for safety materials/training aids.  I hope we have a session for the new regs.  In theory I like MSDS, but until now I never had a job with the time to even look at them.  I was known as Safety Last on my last job.  No injuries beyond minor stitches in my life.   ;)  I have not even fallen off a roof in the last 5 years.

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    « Reply #16 on: August 10, 2013, 03:06:39 am »
    Yes they are.  I work in the fire alarm industry.  The company I work for is installing the fire alarm systems in the new Exxon headquarters they are building just north of Houston, in The Woodlands.

    We use a clear lubricant to pull our wires through the pipe.  We have to have the MSDS sheets for the lube we use and we can only use the lube that we have the MSDS sheets for.

    They are safety crazy out there.  It can get very annoying at times.


    MSDS is bulls___ anyway...I hate having to keep up with that insane crap.
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    « Reply #17 on: August 10, 2013, 08:21:01 am »
    I loved the Safety Third bit on Dirty Jobs. It was brilliant.

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    « Reply #18 on: August 10, 2013, 09:14:55 am »
    Year or two ago we got nifty new computer icons to look up MSDS in a jiffy.

    Did you know there are MSDS's for personal lubricants? And that there is a different MSDS for regular and flavored lubricants?
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