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My Labor day thoughts
« on: September 02, 2013, 12:58:50 pm »
Today is a day where we celebrate the labor, the hard work of a country. We are not celebrating Unions, but the people who built America. Strong, tough single minded Americans who had a dream and knew that it would take hard work and weren't afraid to put in long hours to achieve their goals.

We have changed from a people who embraced hard work to a people who feel they are entitled to that which others have, not through achieving their own, but by taking. This is seen when we demonize the "rich", not necessarily the ones who inherited like the Kennedy's and the Hunts, or the "trust" fund babies. We seem to demonize those who through innovation and hard work have lifted themselves up by long hours of work, thinking outside of the box and leveraging their time, energy and money into a successful outcome.

Where did this mindset come from? Where are entitlements guaranteed to anyone? The Declaration lays out that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, such as Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Pursuit is a key word, no guarantees, no free checks, no free food, no free rides. We all have the opportunity to put in the work and reap the benefits. We are all called to a greatness only we can achieve and your greatness is different than mine. We will not all be rich or wealthy, nor will we all be poor. The Lord said the poor will be with you always. We aren't going to legislate poverty out and we are never going to be equal in resources. Even if we all started out the same, certain individuals would end up on top, that is the nature of man and God's creation.

If we as Citizens of the USA are to be anything, we must be good stewards of the country God has given us. I'm not just saying the physical substance, but the spiritual and intellectual heart of the nation. Right now, I can honestly say that my Congressman and my Senators do not represent my views and opinions. I'm sure others can say the same thing. We need to take back control of our employees in Washington, DC and give them the talk. They forget that they are also "at will" employees and can be removed via the ballot. Mark Levin in his book, the "Liberty Amendments" puts forth a great argument on how to restore the freedoms we have lost and take back control. God bless.
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    Re: My Labor day thoughts
    « Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 01:53:31 pm »
    Well said
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    « Reply #2 on: September 02, 2013, 02:17:59 pm »
    Very well said sir.  I now have a answer for my foster son's question.  What is Labor Day?  I will be stealing this shamelessly. 
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    « Reply #3 on: September 02, 2013, 02:29:37 pm »
    I actually wish I had to work today.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 02, 2013, 02:44:29 pm »
    Thanks. Would love to hear how the foster son takes it.  To be honest, I get so frustrated with people and how they feel they are owed this and that. No one owes you anything. My dad told me, work hard, tithe, pay yourself, pay your bills. He also said stop working for others and make a way for yourself, working on that part.
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    « Reply #5 on: September 02, 2013, 02:48:32 pm »
    That is Outstanding, ernien. Thank you.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 02, 2013, 05:02:05 pm »
    Well I just put up a couple cord of wood to celebrate labor day and if all goes well I'll get another in the shed before dark;) First cool day holiday or not I'm cutting wood;)

    That said great write up agree across the board.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 06:09:48 pm »
    Well said Ernien and welcome to the forum.
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    « Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 10:10:19 pm »
    Well said.   You've said more in three posts than most of us say in three hundred.     :thumbup1
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    « Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 10:36:19 pm »
    Thank you, all.  I am trying to put things down that are running through my head and this and other forums will hopefully give me feedback to grow and improve.

    What i wrote this morning brought out someone I know from my days at Yahoo, a more progressive place you will not find. I didn't last long there. He took affront to my words and brought up slavery and my post and called me a hypocrite. I almost, almost let it slide, but decided to respond on a higher level. I am an American of "genuine slave blood" as Mr. Snerdly on Rush would say. In part this is my response:

    "What I have found in my short 48 years of life is we make out of life what we want. We can dwell on the hurt and pain or focus on the good. I know my outward appearance is different than others, I know my skin is darker than some, but does that really make a difference in who I am or what I can become? I focus on what is good with this country and understand that there is ugly also. Man is imperfect and if we allow people or government to separate us because of perceived differences, they gain control and become masters. It still doesn't change the hard work put in by my ancestors and yours to pick themselves up, educate themselves without government help and provide for much larger families than we have now. We have a better chance in the USA to be successful than in any other place on this planet.

    This is my observation, people still line up to come here, legally and illegally. I have no master but God and that is the true beauty of America as perceived by the founders. A man or woman can become all that they wish to be by working harder than the next, having a plan and a desire to achieve. No guarantees, but you can chase your dreams.  We are only limited by what limitations we place upon ourselves, if things are hard, adapt and overcome. If people get in your way, find a way around them, under them, over them or through them, no one should stop you from achieving your dreams, not in this country.

    As I have said before in our conversations, your worldview and my worldview are so different. I don't understand how you see what you see and you can't see what I see. Thankfully, you live in a state that is closer to your world view and I live in one or soon will that is closer to mine. It's always good to joust with you ****, God bless and have a safe holiday."

    I swore an oath a long time ago to protect and defend the Constitution and I have been to some nice places on Uncle's dime and some not so nice places. The USA is still head and shoulder over the places I have spent time in. I take a dim view of those who run her down, but I also accept that they have a right to express their opinion. I'm off my soapbox.
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    « Reply #10 on: September 02, 2013, 11:20:37 pm »
    You've earned the right to stand on it and speak your mind.   I hope your friend from Yahoo took your comments in the spirit in which they were given but all too often that is not the case.    Many of us here share your opinion.   I'm glad you were able to join us and thanks for putting some perspective on a day that is commonly thought of only as the last good barbecue weekend of the summer.
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    « Reply #11 on: September 03, 2013, 09:03:02 am »
    Welcome.  Your posts strongly reflect my own sentiment, but much more elegantly stated.
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    « Reply #12 on: September 03, 2013, 10:49:29 am »
    Good read, Ernie.
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    « Reply #13 on: September 03, 2013, 12:41:21 pm »
    Ernie, we need many more "naturally tanned" guys to speak out as you have done.   Thank you.   

    We have got to get out country out of this entitlement mentality.   Dare I say that "entitlement" has become the new form of slavery.  Perhaps not of the body, but of the soul and spirit, a dependence that is as unnatural as physical slavery.  Yes, we need the safety net to protect those who cannot, either themselves or through family, fend for themselves.   Beyond that, however, we need to find ways to break the cycle.   And it's not just limited to one race or culture.  It is pervasive.  It weakens our country.  It removes incentive, initiative, entrepreneurial drive and the very spirit of independence and self-reliance this country was founded upon.

    We have made economic and cultural "slaves" of a huge segment of our population by government handouts that are (1) wrongheaded and (2) unsustainable.
    We are America, not Europe.  The failures of the European social model are now self-evident and can no longer be ignored.

    A possible path out of the quagmire is set forth in the little book "When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty without Hurting the Poor...and Yourself," which is widely available in bookstores and on the "net."  If our government would apply the same principles that more and more faith-based organizations are using in their social assistance programs, we could break the cycle.

    BTW:  I spent Labor Day building an 8'x6'x3' deep bullet trap (wood frame, plywood sides, filled with sand) to provide an added layer of safety into my home shooting range "down behind the barn."  Time well-spent in hard physical personal labor.
     

       
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    « Reply #14 on: September 03, 2013, 01:15:47 pm »
    I agree we "naturally tanned guys" need to speak up more and be more open in our views, even with the push back we receive. Mississippi556, great comment. We are fighting against a different type of slavery, people willing to give up freedom for "security". I'll be building a few things like bullet traps and such as I find my piece of America. I'm looking in AZ, TX, WY and MT, but my heart is to go back to Alaska. We shall see how the Lord leads.  God bless, everyone have a productive day.
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    « Reply #15 on: September 03, 2013, 01:52:30 pm »
    I agree we "naturally tanned guys" need to speak up more and be more open in our views, even with the push back we receive. Mississippi556, great comment. We are fighting against a different type of slavery, people willing to give up freedom for "security". I'll be building a few things like bullet traps and such as I find my piece of America. I'm looking in AZ, TX, WY and MT, but my heart is to go back to Alaska. We shall see how the Lord leads.  God bless, everyone have a productive day.

    There are quite a few members from WTA in Texas if you find yourself here  :cool.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #16 on: September 03, 2013, 03:35:12 pm »
    If you are checking out Arizona at some point be sure and stop by the WTA sister forum for 'Zonies.   :cool    www.arizonagunowners.com
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