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How not to hunt bear
« on: June 19, 2013, 11:20:21 pm »


I would've a) screamed like a little girl, and b) had a really hard time resisting the urge to pet it.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #1 on: June 19, 2013, 11:33:00 pm »
     :shocked
    Yeah....just like the little honey containers.
    But with 3 inch teeth and 8 inch claws...and a big appetite!

    "Holy Sh#T!"

    Doesn't even cover it dumbarse, IDIOT!
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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #2 on: June 19, 2013, 11:48:17 pm »
    Oh well, so much for scent block .   .    .      .      :facepalm
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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 09:23:53 am »
    He's lucky he didn't smell like food.
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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 09:52:40 am »
    :shocked
    Yeah....just like the little honey containers.
    But with 3 inch teeth and 8 inch claws...and a big appetite!

    "Holy Sh#T!"

    Doesn't even cover it dumbarse, IDIOT!

    Not being a hunter, I'm not sure what he did wrong. Anything? I believe that he was bowhunting in Canada (presumably not for bear... ), so I bet he didn't have a bear-appropriate handgun for last-ditch defense...
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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 10:05:39 am »
    Yeah, I've seen several videos like that.
    As I understand it this isn't a really uncommon occurrence as Bears are curious critters.

    Like Coronach said, I'm not seeing what he did wrong or stupid. 

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 10:36:41 am »
    What could you have done differently in that situation? You can't stop the bear coming to say hi, so just being chilled and non-threatening whilst waiting for it to leave seems the best course of action.

    The only other options seem to be to freak out (and piss it off) or attack it (and piss it off).

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    Also, he was soooo cute!  :o (Shame about the big teeth and dodgy temperament)

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 11:12:57 am »
    I think the two bears are either siblings or sow & cub... they look pretty similar in size.

    It almost looked like the bear was surprised to find someone in the tree. "Oh hey, what're you doing here?"

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 01:16:25 pm »
    Well that's something;) I'd have made a racket as soon as it started up the tree along with getting to some kind of gun to be enough defense against a bear(if possible, if not possible I wouldn't be hunting bear there). Really it does show how fast a large critter like a bear can be, this guy is really pretty lucky that the bear didn't get pissed. There are few places I'd rather be stuck with a pissed bear, up a tree maybe in a phone booth;)

    Bears are curious critter's and fairly dang smart, not great eye sight but they move fast and a good sized bear like that is nothing to scoff at, might not be a grizzly but it's up close they are enough at times to ruin a pair of shorts.

    My grandpa actually shot a bear around that size between here and my folks the next 40 over, and it's hanging on the wall above my dad's gun collection;) He took one with a rifle last year, and we've had several get on the back porch of the house trying to get into the dog food, every year during raspberry season man they are out thick eating berries;) It's one of those things you get used to living around them.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #9 on: June 20, 2013, 01:59:55 pm »
    I think the two bears are either siblings or sow & cub... they look pretty similar in size.

    It almost looked like the bear was surprised to find someone in the tree. "Oh hey, what're you doing here?"
    I agree. You can see it in the expression/body language. It was curious about what was up there, climbed up, foundbthe guy, and suddenly realized that the guy was something unexpected. it promptly stopped, looked wary, and climbed down.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #10 on: June 20, 2013, 03:16:59 pm »
    Granted, most of my experience is with whitetail, but I don't know how else I would hunt a bear other than from a tree and with a bow. I think the guy handled it as well as you can, except that I would probably have gotten noisy as soon as the bear took an interest in the base of my tree.

    I would be inclined to carry a handgun, where legal. Although it is probably not the best course of action, this video does have me pondering the possible outcomes of shooting a bear in the face with a 44 mag at contact distance in a tree.
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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #11 on: June 20, 2013, 03:45:02 pm »
    I reckon I should clear something up: I was joking about the title...  I know he's hunting from the stand, I don't know that he's hunting bear.

    I probably should have put it in R & R under 'Close Encounters of the Ursine Kind'...  ::)

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #12 on: June 20, 2013, 03:54:37 pm »
    I would be inclined to carry a handgun, where legal. Although it is probably not the best course of action, this video does have me pondering the possible outcomes of shooting a bear in the face with a 44 mag at contact distance in a tree.

    I'd say not great but better than a sharp stick;) I might have been inclined to fire off a round as soon as he really started sniffing around my tree, bears typically unless with cub's or wounded will take off at the drop of a hat but you just never know with wild critters;)

    I didn't think about it I had assumed he was actually hunting bear, which would typically put you out of cub season to a degree, etc but if he was up the stand for something else that would really change things. Either way living in the woods(or not) I'm always armed and the same goes while hunting even with a bow. In Michigan at least the UP your able to carry a self defense gun concealed even during bow season etc.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #13 on: June 20, 2013, 04:19:26 pm »
    I was looking for this video this morning and couldn't find it.
    And this isn't the whole vid, I think the original is almost 10 minutes long, anyhow:



    This time a pair of hunters get a visitor up in their stand.
    I'm impressed with how dang fast those bears can get up the trees!

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #14 on: June 20, 2013, 11:02:33 pm »
    Been watching a few of these now. I'm surprised at how often the bear doesn't appear to realise the tree stand is occupied. It's also interesting that a calm "Hey you. Where do you think you're going?" is often enough for a black bear to decide he has something better to be doing.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #15 on: June 21, 2013, 12:31:33 am »
    Black bears are surprisingly timid (which is not to say they shouldn't be treated with respect).

    Brown bears, grizzlies, etc., will treat you as an infringer upon their territory as apex predator. With prejudice.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #16 on: June 21, 2013, 01:52:49 am »
    I didn't watch the second vid, but the 1st vid could have ended much worse then it did. The good news is at that distance I think a head shot to a bear would be quite easy and if put in the right spot, the caliber would not make a huge difference. I would still rather have something suitable for bear at that distance though :hide.
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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #17 on: June 22, 2013, 11:19:47 pm »
    Looks like the bear was mostly curious, certainly could have killed they hunter had it wanted. None the less, if I found myself in that situation an involuntary bowel movement would be probable. Quite glad we don't have bears in my area.
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    « Reply #18 on: June 22, 2013, 11:42:59 pm »
    It looked curious alright.  Nothing like being trapped up a tree, when a local bear comes by for house warming call.   :D

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    « Reply #19 on: June 23, 2013, 01:04:30 am »
    I didn't watch the second vid, but the 1st vid could have ended much worse then it did. The good news is at that distance I think a head shot to a bear would be quite easy and if put in the right spot, the caliber would not make a huge difference. I would still rather have something suitable for bear at that distance though :hide.

    Head shot would more than likely be useless, the skull is very thick. Down the throat with a .357 or .44 may do enough damage to seriously injure, but at the very least it would make Mr. Ursus think twice about sticking around.

    Momma and cub would be a "bring me my brown pants" situation- momma gets real ornery and mean when anything gets close to the baby.

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    « Reply #20 on: June 23, 2013, 02:38:07 am »
    What I've read, it's not advised to aim at the head of grizzlies.  The skull is thick enough to withstand bullet strikes and angled.  The males do spar with each other and use that very hard head as armor.  I've read about someone who shot a bear in the head, using a rifle.  The bullet remove a chunk of its skull and the bear was still alive and very angry.

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    Re: How not to hunt bear
    « Reply #21 on: June 23, 2013, 05:52:12 pm »
    Grew up in W.Va. and met many a Black Bear.
    Make enough noise, it gets discouraged, and they go running usually.
    But to allow one THAT close is inviting a trip to the hospital or worse.
    If it does get that close cause you weren't watching the best best is to stay calm and hope it gets disinterested quickly.
    Oh, you were eating beef jerky or a sandwich or snaxs at the time?
    Sux to be you! The Bear just invited itself to your place for lunch.
    Good luck with that.



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    « Reply #22 on: June 23, 2013, 10:26:48 pm »
    The tragedy above involved food in the tent.  Also, the two "adults" with him were using drugs/alcohol.  The Black Bear tore open a tent wall and dragged the kid away in his sleeping bag.  He didn't survive.

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    « Reply #23 on: June 23, 2013, 11:25:59 pm »
    Black bears kill more people than do Brown bears.  Part of this is they are very curious, and fools think they look cuddly.  All bears are scary fast, brown bears can reach 35mph, and have good weapons.  Do not worry about your hunt, scare them off before they get to close, even if it ruins your day of hunting.  All animals have fight or flight reactions.  Do you really want to start trying to scare a big dangerous animal when it is up a tree with you?   
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