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Failed Coup in Turkey
« on: July 16, 2016, 01:24:49 am »
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/world/live-blog-turkey/index.html

Hmm. This is going to make things interesting (not that they weren't already, but hey, let's just double-down on insanity...)

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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #1 on: July 16, 2016, 02:07:12 am »
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/world/live-blog-turkey/index.html

    Hmm. This is going to make things interesting (not that they weren't already, but hey, let's just double-down on insanity...)
    Too bad it failed.  I watched NBC's newscast on it tonight, and from what they say, he really hasn't been an effective president, and has been steering his country away from secularism and more toward islamic principles.  That, and of course how his government is more concerned with crushing the Kurds than Isis.

    I don't pretend to be an expert on the region, but it sounds like he needs to go. :shrug

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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #2 on: July 16, 2016, 08:04:51 am »
       Pretty much What Kaso said.    He's been moving the country more theocractic and the military was going to try and stop it.....

       I'd take a military dictatorship over a Islamic theocratic state.....
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #3 on: July 16, 2016, 08:29:39 am »
    No surprise who Obama supports here.
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #4 on: July 16, 2016, 09:46:50 am »
    I'd take a military dictatorship over a Islamic theocratic state.....
    Same.  And if you look at the region, they always end up with one or the other.

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    « Reply #5 on: July 16, 2016, 11:48:12 pm »
    Same.  And if you look at the region, they always end up with one or the other.

    I'm with Grant.  A secular dictator is preferable over an Islamist theocracy with Sharia law.  That is a dictatorship of body and soul.
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #6 on: July 17, 2016, 01:43:58 am »
    People are saying it looks like Erdogan may have started the coup himself. It seems most of the military didn't support this coup attempt... but it's all propaganda on both sides.

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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #7 on: July 17, 2016, 12:01:59 pm »
    He has been trying to purge his opponents from the military for some time.     Ultimately, I don't think him consolidating his power is going to be good for Turkey.
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #8 on: July 17, 2016, 09:49:25 pm »
    This was an interesting post I saw summarizing reasons to think it was a false flag  event.


    " For those questioning if Erdogan didn't stage this coup against himself..
    He leaves the country, and the coup happens while he's gone! How convenient.
    He's essentially protected by F-16's that were apparently in rebel hands.
    Since the begging of him taking high office, he's done absolutely everything to declaw the military from staging a future coup (Turkey has a history of military coups).
    By staging this coup, he was able to bring out anyone that'd oppose him into the light, essentially cleaning house. Not only that but he can accuse anyone he doesn't like and simply slap a label on them and that's that.
    He purged the majority of all judges, assuming the new judges will be screened to his liking. So when these thousands of people go trial, Erdogan need not worry about the outcome.
    The cleric that lives in the US state of Pennsylvania governed in Turkey as someone that wanted to change the country through political means, not by military means.
    By painting an exiled politician, you're easily able to paint a picture of 'revenge'. He's an easy target.
    The beggings of calling the US an enemy happened almost immediately after his return to Turkey. He said there could be another military coup.. him saying that is fear mongering but also a precursor for the US becoming the bad guy.
    He said that anyone who supports the cleric may find themselves at war with Turkey. He then proceeds to say that Obama should arrest and/or extradite him to Turkey.
    Obama isn't going to turn him over in these circumstance.. Kerry said the US would merely 'entertain the idea' if evidence was brought forward showing he was responsible for the coup.. that'll never happen. Erdogan knew the US response, the ease of painting the US as an enemy, and the support he'd get for opposing 'the empire'.
    And the jets.. the F-16's that could have easily shot down his plane. Why in the world would you not shoot down the head of the snake? So he can turn around and execute you? No. That's absurd.
    All of this was well thought out, they knew the sequence of each stage of this coup and then beyond the coup which is continuing to unfold."

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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #9 on: July 17, 2016, 09:55:00 pm »
    There is the ring of truth to that .   .   .    :hmm
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #10 on: July 17, 2016, 11:03:13 pm »
    Another site said that the Turkish "constitution," as it were, provides for the military to step in if the government becomes too theocratic in order to preserve a secular government. This may be what occurred. Too early to tell but it failed if that's what they intended. I do suspect it may be a false flag event contrived by Estrogen.
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #11 on: July 18, 2016, 02:49:26 pm »
    There's nothing to making a successful chicken coop. I can't see why a turkey coop would be so much harder.




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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #12 on: July 18, 2016, 03:16:24 pm »
    There's nothing to making a successful chicken coop. I can't see why a turkey coop would be so much harder.




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    Mmmmm...if it weren't so hot, I'd have my wife cook one up.
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #13 on: July 18, 2016, 03:19:48 pm »
    Good time to smoke one, or cook it in a pit.
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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #14 on: July 18, 2016, 06:55:02 pm »
    Mmmmm...if it weren't so hot, I'd have my wife cook one up.

    I think I have seen the error of my ways. I need to get me a wife, so that I may have random seasoned and cooked, delicious animals with which to consume.

    Or maybe I need a Turkey coup, but then I would have to learn how to cook......  :shrug.


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    Re: Failed Coup in Turkey
    « Reply #15 on: July 18, 2016, 07:51:07 pm »
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