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DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
« on: October 22, 2008, 11:23:02 pm »
=)  Just wondering if texans should post here ?

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    Re: DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
    « Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 12:10:37 am »
    Well seeing as you Texas types consider yourselves your own little country :P, yeah you can.  Really though, the idea in this forum is to give people outside US borders that may live under an entirely different set of rules a place to have their voice heard.

    Certainly you may come here to lean about other countries, and tell of your own experiences for the sake of comparison and encouragement.
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    Re: DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
    « Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 07:41:21 am »
      Texas was its own country with the help of a lot of Americans and American dollars and then went bankrupt shortly thereafter. 

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    Re: DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
    « Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 11:54:46 am »
    If you enjoy being a Texan - thank someone from Tennessee,  ;)

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    « Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 11:57:34 am »
    Careful, if Texans get too cocky, Alaska will be cut in half and make Texas the THIRD largest state!
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    Re: DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
    « Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 12:35:49 pm »
    Wow, we Texans are taking a lot of abuse.  It's perfectly understandable, though, that y'all would be jealous.  ;D
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    « Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 12:43:09 pm »
    DOES TEXAS COUNT ??

    That kind of depends on what you aim to do with it.  ;D


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    Re: DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
    « Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 03:26:46 pm »
    Texas, like a vote, is only as good as the character of the person using it.

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    « Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 01:48:39 pm »
    I grew up in Plano, Texas. 
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    « Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 04:49:33 pm »
    I grew up in Plano, Texas. 

    Seriously?  I did not know that. Cool.

    I spent some a few vacations as a kid in SLC, as that's where my mother's family lives.  Haven't been to Utah in probably 25 years though.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 28, 2008, 05:42:53 pm »
    The proper way to phrase that question would be, "can Texas count?"  The answer largely depends on whether mittens and socks are being worn.   ;D

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    Re: DOES TEXAS COUNT ??
    « Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 12:41:43 pm »
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    I grew up in Plano, Texas. 


    Seriously?  I did not know that. Cool.

    I spent some a few vacations as a kid in SLC, as that's where my mother's family lives.  Haven't been to Utah in probably 25 years though.

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    Spent 7 years in Plano/Garland, my vote is you can call it international and keep it  ;D
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    « Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 12:46:53 pm »
    Going to school in Galveston/College Station...
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    « Reply #13 on: November 14, 2008, 03:53:52 pm »
    Texans are not whining about the elections.

    Ok, Folks. Texas has given you complainers plenty of time to get used to the election results. After listening to all the whiners after the election, some folks from Real Texas have decided that we might just take matters into our own hands.

    First a little history lesson. It's our independent nature to point out the people who enjoy the Texas Lifestyle have the right to secede and form our own country once again whenever the people of Texas choose to do so. Some other states also have this right. The difference is, Texas has actually pulled that trigger before.

    Yes, Texas was an Independent Republic before it became a state and can secede. Nothing inherently prohibits that from taking place.

    Let's get this straight. John McCain, a real American hero, carried Texas by over a million votes. Texans can still smell the fires of the Twin Towers. We would also honor President Bush. George Bush simply did what any Real Texan would do and that is to go try his best to annihilate anyone who was responsible for attacking us. We don't fault him for that. We applaud that sort of behavior. It's Texas politics, Texas style.

    We're ready to secede.

    Don't get me wrong. We like ya'll ˜ We just don't want to be like ya'll.

    #1: Barack Obama becomes President of the United States (all the other 49 states).

    #2: Ross Perot becomes the next President of the Republic of Texas and invites John McCain to be an honorary Texan. We honor our heroes in Texas and honor their service. McCain is welcome here and he can be Secretary of the Texas Navy. Native Texan George Foreman will be Secretary of Defense. After that is all said and done, we wish Mr. Obama well. We really do.

    We expect one of Perot's first acts as President of the Republic will be to tear down the border wall and erect a 10' wall around Austin to keep the "Austin Weird" folks in and away from the rest of us. If they will just pipe their Texas music out over the wall, it will keep the rest of us happy. ( Just kidding my Austin relatives on that one.) However, Willie will be Secretary of Agriculture and music. Wonder what he will grow?

    So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic? Here's a few things to be aware of. Texas is the 11th largest economy on the planet. We are bigger than Spain and right behind Great Britain. We are also bigger than Russia. We are an economic force to be reckoned with. We have a constitutional amendment to balance our budget?.and we do it. We also have a multi-billion dollar budget surplus this year. We are so big, we have our own power grid. Yes, that's true.

    What else?

    NASA is in Houston. (we will control the space industry). We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States. Defense Industry? We have over 65% of it. The term "Don't mess with Texas," will take on a whole new meaning. Oil - we can supply all the oil the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Obama states? Sorry about that.

    As David Werst said, "We like ya'll, we just don't want to be like ya'll." You can buy oil (pronounced like ya'll) from us instead of terrorist countries that hate you. We will love you for paying so much to us instead of Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Kuwait and others.

    You don't want to 'drill baby drill' or put up with those nasty oil wells? Well, we do and we know how to do it without polluting the land, air, and sea. BTW-We have our own ports and shipping lanes. We're also not "waiting on our FEMA check" to rebuild Galveston. We are doing it right now as we speak. Natural Gas - Again we have all we need and again, it's just too bad about you blue Obama states who don't want drilling. We've been driving around with those big tanks in the backs of our pickups for years now. We'll switch over to compressed natural gas. Obama will figure a way to keep ya'll warm?.according to your need. Or, you could use ocean waves, or make friends with Hugo Chavez or what's his name in Iran.

    Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell, EDS, Raytheon, Motorola, Intel, Austin Technology Centers Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on. Health Centers - We have the largest research centers for Cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world, and other large health centers. We have enough colleges to keep us going: UT, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Texas State University, Rice, SMU, TCU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT, Texas Woman's University, etc. Ivy grows better in the south anyway. We have a ready supply of workers (just open the border when we need some more).

    But, we won't have an illegal immigration problem. Former Texas Governor candidate Kinky Friedman solved that. He proposed we pay 5 Mexican Generals a million a year to control illegal immigration-folks coming from Mexico to Texas illegally. For every illegal that slips through, we deduct $10,000. Wonder how many will get across the border into Texas? We won't need a Border Patrol.

    We like tourism. Come stay a while. Enjoy a Cowboys game or go to Six Flags over Texas?.then go home. We don't need any more Californians coming here and messing things up. Or, they could live in Austin where we can keep an eye on 'em.

    We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an army but since everybody down here is heavily armed and has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an army in 6 hours if we need it. That's the Texas way. When the tower sniper started shooting in Austin a few years back, citizens piled out of their cars and pickups and started returning fire within 2 minutes. Our citizens are licensed to carry handguns on their person.

    We have a saying down here: "If you mess with the bull, you're gonna get the horn." And an even more remarkable finding from the past?. Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush: 0.1 of one percent. Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2. In Texas, even some of our school teachers carry guns. We won't surrender our kids to nuts and terrorists without a fight. Don't even think about messing with us. If you want the sticker, click on it?

    If the situation really gets bad, we can always call the Texas DPS and ask them to send over a couple of Texas Rangers. We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs and vegetable produce and everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food.

    Arts? Bob Wills is still the king, but we also like different types of music, Country?.and?.Western. We even have our own beer. Lone Star, The National Beer of Texas. This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have. Just keep on reading David Werst's Real Texas Blog for more details on how to be a Real Texan.

    Now to the rest of the United States under President Obama: Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, We'll sell you gas too. We'll call the gas company Texasco or something like that. Happy to do it. You won't have any TV as the space center in Houston will cut off your communications or ask you to pay for the signal. It will be Texas Direct TV. Hank Jr. will move here and be in charge of programming.

    Did you know we don't even have an income tax?

    We have all we need here in God's country and like I've already said, if we don't have it, we don't need it. We will have cheap, plentiful energy. The new Texas Secretary of Energy, T. Boone Pickens will be putting up thousands of wind generators all over the west Texas plains and since everybody else thinks Texas is full of hot air, we might as well take advantage of it.

    Good luck. Ya'll are gonna need it.

    Signed, The People of Real Texas   


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    « Reply #14 on: November 14, 2008, 04:40:21 pm »
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    In other news, The Breakfast Club was named the official movie of the State of Texas this morning...

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    « Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008, 05:57:18 pm »
    George Bush simply did what any Real Texan would do and that is to go try his best to annihilate anyone who was responsible for attacking us. We don't fault him for that. We applaud that sort of behavior. It's Texas politics, Texas style.

    If George W had done it Texas style, Rumsfeld wouldn't have been allowed to fire WARRIORS who wanted to do this thing THE TEXAS WAY and send in "only the minimum."

    Bora Bora would have been the world's largest open pit barbecue, and Iraq's borders would have been sealed, anyone even smelling funny coming over from Syria and Iran lit up with Ma Deuce Fifties or 20 Mike Mike from strafing runs across the border.

    Sorry.  FAIL on that argument.

    But here's to hoping real Texans get in charge of cleaning stuff up.

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    « Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008, 08:15:25 pm »
    First a little history lesson. It's our independent nature to point out the people who enjoy the Texas Lifestyle have the right to secede and form our own country once again whenever the people of Texas choose to do so. Some other states also have this right. The difference is, Texas has actually pulled that trigger before.

    Yes, Texas was an Independent Republic before it became a state and can secede. Nothing inherently prohibits that from taking place.

    I hate to rain on your Texas parade, but you are mistaken.

    Following the Civil War a case was brought before the Supreme Court that raised the question of whether or not Texas' succession was legal. The case, Texas v. White (Source), decided that neither Texas nor any of the other States legally succeeded, and that no State maintains the right to do so. To quote the Chief Justice:

    Quote from: Chief Justice Chase
    Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law. The obligations of the State, as a member of the Union, and of every citizen of the State, as a citizen of the United States, remained perfect and unimpaired. It certainly follows that the State did not cease to be a State, nor her citizens to be citizens of the Union.

    Quite simply, neither your State nor any other has the legal right to succeed from the Union. You can disagree with the finding if you wish, but the notion that Texas enjoys "the right to secede and form our own country" and "(n)othing inherently prohibits that from taking place" is totally ungrounded in either fact or history.

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    « Reply #17 on: November 14, 2008, 08:23:11 pm »
    I've no stake in this discussion.  Just throwing this out there...

    http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp

    See the last paragraph.

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    « Reply #18 on: November 14, 2008, 10:05:34 pm »
    Bora Bora would have been the world's largest open pit barbecue

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    « Reply #19 on: November 14, 2008, 10:27:47 pm »
    Maybe he meant Burma.


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    « Reply #20 on: November 15, 2008, 01:12:27 am »
    Bora bora-er-Tora bora was turned into the worlds largest bar-b-que if what I have read on the subject is correct...........
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    « Reply #21 on: November 15, 2008, 03:05:13 am »
    You want to attack Tahiti?   :o


    Tora Bora.  :-p

    But we really need to send our troops to Tahiti to decompress.

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    « Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008, 03:09:02 am »
    Bora bora-er-Tora bora was turned into the worlds largest bar-b-que if what I have read on the subject is correct...........

    Excessive amounts of napalm were used to exterminate every Taliban and al-Quaeda in the range?

    'Cuz I wanted to smell Osama cookin' from the Chicago suburbs.  Napalm in such amounts that the world would be cast under thirty days of night from the clouds.

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