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Re: Do we bail out the auto industry?
« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2008, 01:30:49 pm »
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"But why can't the industry fire all the union workers, and then offer to hire them again at reasonable rates? As we venture into recession, the unemployment rate is going up. People want to keep their jobs. Why can't the industry just hire anyone who is willing to work for x amount of years at a wage that the industry decides on? If everyone goes on strike and won't come back to work, then hire the unemployed from across the US".

That might be too much like free enterprise.
The real kind, where everyone conducts their affairs free from compulsion and coersion.
The Big Three would probably have to wait until their present labor contracts expired, though.
Contracts must be honored - unless they were the result of compulsion and coersion, of course.

And if, indeed, the Big 3 would go under and the gov't, by some miracle of good sense, got the h-ll out of the way, there might be a host of smaller, more efficiently run car manufacturers to chose from. It was that way once upon a time and the choices for cars were immense.
Kinda' makes ya wonder if all those regulations on the car industry were invented just to hinder small manufacturers from ever getting started.
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    Re: Do we bail out the auto industry?
    « Reply #51 on: November 15, 2008, 01:47:28 pm »
    Its not a bail out we need its a criminal investigation we need of Union campaign funding, Congressmen in the pocket of the unions.  Greedy corporate board members of the auto makers insisting on building high profit items like SUV's instead of the vehicles needed by the public like electric and hybrid cars and trucks need to be fired sans golden parachutes.  The obscene income difference between labor and management has engendered a subculture completely divorced from society and its about time they were dragged back down to earth.

    Without the obscene salaries and rivalries between companies and government agencies, without the inefficiencies of big government and all the alphabet agencies and their tangled web of conflicting regulations adding to the legal cost of producing everything things could progress in a more orderly fashion.  Perhaps  with more competitive prices for everything from corn to antibiotics to pickups.   

    It won't happen of course, the Attorney Generals of the States and the Feds are political offices and the people who need investigating and prosecuting are sitting in the directors chairs orchestrating this mess.  Just my opinion of course and we know what opinions are worth on the market if you don't have money or celebrity to make an opinion noteworthy.     
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    Re: Do we bail out the auto industry?
    « Reply #52 on: November 16, 2008, 12:30:39 am »
    That's what started the unions to start with.
    Little known fact... FORD machine gunned a number of workers who were on strike.

    In order to ditch the unions, they would have to sell the factories, movie to new states, such as southern states or western states... and build new factories.
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    Re: Do we bail out the auto industry?
    « Reply #53 on: November 16, 2008, 07:28:21 pm »
    My uncle made $52 a HR. working for ford. he retired 2 years ago. he has no ford shares in his portfolio said to me last july that the big blue was due for a enema. well here it comes.

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    Re: Do we bail out the auto industry?
    « Reply #54 on: November 17, 2008, 10:14:50 am »
    In order to ditch the unions, they would have to sell the factories, movie to new states, such as southern states or western states... and build new factories.

    Wait a minute!   I like this idea!   Let's spread some of that wealth around by spreading Ford/GM factories around! 
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