Hearts and prayers to the victims out there.


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Convenient timing.

If I were a believer in things like MK-ULTRA, I'd start wondering who programmed this kid to execute this action.

Note he does not attempt to flee.  His sits and waits for the cops.

As an investigator on the case, I'd be looking for a psych connection, and then I'd be looking into the psych's funding.

Way too convenient.  Just at a point when the dot-gov is angling to get an arms-restrictive UN treaty adopted.

It smells.

Yes, I know, sometimes a crazy is just a crazy.

And sometimes border agents just get randomly murdered by gangs using arms they got from an illegal shadow operation.

And sometimes, just sometimes, it's not as random as it will be sold.

One thing you can count on, though:  Schumer will blame the guns.  Hillary will "reluctantly" observe that it's just another "unfortunate" indication that we need a treaty.

And no one at all will look at this kids "mental health" history, and no one will look into his "treatments."

Because . . . why would you?

Never let a crisis go to waste. Yeah, they'll be all over this.

I have read the anti's comments a few places.
The thing that gets me, if the guy would have plowed into the line waiting outside in a 1 ton pick up truck... the idea of banning or restricting vehicles would NEVER cross their minds.
I look at a firearm as a tool, the same as any other.
It can be used for good and for bad... just like any other.
It is the person wielding the tool that is good or bad.
Ban people from being bad... this will solve all of the problems.


Jim

Because . . . why would you?

It might be worth seeing if the guy has a history of mental problems, because it might mean information isn't being passed along to the NICS database properly (i.e. if the guy had been committed at some point, but was able to buy one or more firearms through an FFL later). Crazy is as crazy does, though. I'd be downright amazed if there was anything more to it than that.

Personally, I'd guess the guy was looking for attention, and settled on this as the surest way to get some.

The theater may have been a gun free zone or something like that. I haven't confirmed this yet but thats what several pundits are saying.

That seems possible, but I'd want indepedent confirmation. All the theaters here are sure posted, though.

The theater was a Century 16, under the Cinemark umbrella.
They are a no guns company.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/


Jim

Even with the cops at the theater for crowd control, they'd be outside and especially in front.  The shooter came in through an emergency exit, and I'll be it was on the back side of the building.

The whole thing speaks to a pretty decent level of planning - acquiring the smoke/CS grenades (I've seen it described variously as either 'noxious' smoke or tear gas.  Anyone who's been in the military knows that the smoke from standard smoke grenades is pretty nasty on it's own) gas mask, and rigging the door of one of the theaters being used for the midnight screening so it could be opened from the outside.  That last says that he either got info or perhaps even assistance from a cinema employee.

But with the cops around front, and him walking in the back, emptying a semi-auto shotgun, and at least one magazine from a semi auto rifle and possibly one or two pistols before the cops could react wouldn't be much of a trick.

And those stadium seating type theaters, which I'm sure would be the ones used for a big event like a midnight screening, are like a shooting gallery for anyone standing near the screen.  Everyone up there has to come down toward the shooter before they can get out.

and rigging the door of one of the theaters being used for the midnight screening so it could be opened from the outside.  That last says that he either got info or perhaps even assistance from a cinema employee

or he simply went to the theater earlier and stuck a piece of cardboard or whatever between the lock and the frame on the door...

What I keep waiting for is somebody to link the entire Bain name nonsense into the mix...then I will point at the mass media and say "you created this"...good luck that actually happening...

or he simply went to the theater earlier and stuck a piece of cardboard or whatever between the lock and the frame on the door...

What I keep waiting for is somebody to link the entire Bain name nonsense into the mix...then I will point at the mass media and say "you created this"...good luck that actually happening...

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of using duct tape (Watergate, anyone?), with a bit sticking out as a pull tab from the outside, since those exit doors quite often lack handles on the outside.

I don't believe now is the time for jokes, Arfin.  Anyway, along with my prayers and thoughts going out to the survivors and family of this sick act, I just turned off CNN after the journalist was talking with the Mayor of the city about what it would take to re-instate the Assault weapons ban.    

So, because the theater company specifically prohibits all non-LEOs from carrying to defend themselves, should it not be considered liable for the deaths and injuries of the victims?



Kaso

I look at a firearm as a tool, the same as any other.
It can be used for good and for bad... just like any other.

Yes, but you have to remember: we are used to them.

We've either grown up with them, been around them all our lives, or been introduced to them in such a fashion that we know what a gun is, and how it works.

The people who are afraid of weapons are usually only introduced to them through TV or personal experience with crime (i.e., on the bad end).  The same as someone who's never used a tablesaw is going to be leery of it.

Note: I understand that my above statements have nothing to do with the politicians on either side of the issue.  To them, guns are either poisonous vipers poised to kill us all, or national treasures ready to be anointed with holy water and scented oils and worshiped at the altar above all else. There is no middle ground, which is part of the fluffing problem.

Shutting up now.

Best wishes to all in Aurora.