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Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
« Reply #125 on: November 22, 2021, 12:00:54 pm »
Blind driving wheels (i.e. no flanges) were not uncommon on steam locomotives, though IIRC in the US those were typically used on narrow-gauge locos that ran on lines with extremely tight turning radiuses.  Never heard of drivers that could move side-to-side before. I suspect the damage wrought by the AA-20 was a result of the locomotive's massive size and weight rather than the flangeless drive wheels.

N&W 611, for example, is the largest and heaviest piece of equipment to ever operate on the Strasburg Rail Road, so when she visited for the first time back in 2019, there were serious concerns that she might damage the track, especially the switches.  Fortunately, the track held up just fine (though you could hear the rails squealing in protest when she passed over some of the tighter-radius curves going into and out of switches).
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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #126 on: November 22, 2021, 12:43:43 pm »
    I imagine that the loading of the contact points between the wheels and the rails would have been tremendous in that case and probably caused mechanical deformation as well as heavy abrasion in places.  My reference was to the notation that the trains using that locomotive frequently derailed.

    That can be caused by a number of things but the whole point of the flanges on the wheels is to keep that from happening.  Fewer flanges would reduce the ability of the system to operate safely - IMO. 

    I like the fact that this is the only forum, not actually dedicated to railroads, where I can discuss such things.   :thumbup1
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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #127 on: December 03, 2021, 12:48:27 pm »
    Holy CRAP!  I'd heard about this years ago, but figured it was either a scam to bilk naïve railfans or else well-intentioned but wouldn't ever go anywhere.  But it's legit and they're actually doing it!  And they appear to be succeeding.

    Long story short, a bunch of die-hard railfans have formed a trust and are building a life-size replica of a Pennsylvania Railroad T1-Class duplex steam locomotive.

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    « Reply #128 on: December 05, 2021, 01:00:29 pm »
    Ambitious.  Very ambitious.   :cool   
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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #129 on: April 03, 2022, 03:43:26 pm »
    Rerailing.  This was all new to me.  Quite an interesting procedure.


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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #130 on: April 06, 2022, 05:30:35 pm »
    Another old girl has come back to life!  Reading T-1 class #2102 officially moved for the first time under her own power in 31 years, and conducted an (apparently) successful test run along the Reading, Blue Mountain, and Northern main line earlier today.





    And as the cherry on top, RBMN is resurrecting the old Reading Iron Horse Rambles excursions.  AND there are still tickets available.  I probably won't be able to make it, but in case anyone's interested:

    https://www.rbmnrr-passenger.com/rambles
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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #131 on: April 07, 2022, 06:05:22 pm »
    Good stuff.  Thanks for sharing.   :cool
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    « Reply #132 on: April 08, 2022, 10:15:06 am »
     :cool

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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #133 on: May 01, 2022, 03:36:44 pm »
    More train tech I'd never heard of: sanding the flues.




    Weekend Steam: Big Boy 4014 Accelerating And Sanding The Flues

    Supercut of the two best pacing shots from this date. Accelerating out of Walnut Ridge, AR and sanding the flues just south of Knobel, AR. Speed towards the end of the video is approaching 45 MPH. Enjoy =)

    FAQ (READ):
    Oil burning locomotives must have their flues and tubes "sanded" every few dozen miles because any oil that does not fully combust in the firebox will end up coating said tubes and flues and hinder heat transfer to the boiler. When the locomotive is working hard, a heavy draft is induced from the firebox, through the tubes and flues to the smokebox and out the stack. The sand that is poured through the firebox peep hole in the cab is sucked through the tubes and flues and scours them clean of the oil deposits, hence the short periods of black exhaust.

    The diesel locomotive accompanies UP Steam power to provide a measure of security and flexibility in operations. The diesel can hold or slow the train speed down using dynamic braking, thus saving the cost of new brake shoes and the time needed to install them. Additionally, the diesel can be used to assist when necessary, and to extended the fuel and water supply, allowing for longer operating distances and days. Finally, as of 2021, the diesel is an integral part of the PTC system required for FRA compliance.

    The water overflow from just in front of the rear cylinder on the fireman's side is the exhaust steam injector overflow port. Discharge from this port is normal when starting and stopping the injector.

    Many Thanks for spotting, Merle! This is a great one!

    From:  https://truebluesam.blogspot.com/2022/04/weekend-steam-big-boy-4014-accelerating.html
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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #134 on: May 01, 2022, 04:27:58 pm »
    I never knew that, goatroaper.  Saw a Skyfire documentary on SP4449 that includes a brief clip of the fireman sanding the flues, but never could figure out why he was doing that.  Thanks much!

    And some other good news: Union Pacific is donating several pieces of its heritage fleet, including the #3985 Challenger steam locomotive, a 2-10-2 steam locomotive, and DD40X "Centennial" diesel locomotive (the largest diesel locomotives ever built) to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America non-profit, the same organization that owns and operates the Milwaukee Road #261, with the express understanding that all of the equipment will be restored to operating condition and (presumably) returned to service.

    https://www.up.com/media/releases/challenger-3985-donation-nr-220428.htm

    https://rrhma.com/up-donation/
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    Re: Back when America BUILT stuff
    « Reply #135 on: May 02, 2022, 12:05:03 pm »
    Watched an interesting piece from Rocky Mt. PBS on the Galloping goose equipment running on narrow gauge railways in Colo.  Most were built from Pierce Arrow automobiles and converted to run on narrow gauge mainly to carry mail up into the mountains.  Found it on youtube after catching a short reference on another channel. 
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    « Reply #136 on: May 02, 2022, 01:03:55 pm »
    The amazing thing is that only one Galloping Goose was ever scrapped, and the remaining six not only survive, but have been restored are all (as far as I've been able to find) operational.  And a replica of the scrapped Goose has also been built and is also operational.
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    « Reply #137 on: May 02, 2022, 04:07:46 pm »
    Cool stuff guys.  Thanks for posting it.   :cool
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    « Reply #138 on: May 22, 2022, 05:31:46 pm »
    Historic railway maintenance machines.  I'd never heard of most of these, and never really gave much thought to how railway maintenance was done.


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    « Reply #139 on: May 24, 2022, 05:23:11 pm »
    Cool stuff.   :cool 

    I remember as a kid on the farm using the old sickle bar mowers and what a pain in the butt they were to adjust and maintain.  The rotary style mowers or " bush hogs " were quite the revelation when they transitioned from railway use to state highway departments and finally private users for their own lands. 

    A friend who worked for the railroads once told me that the Hy Rail stuff was fine as long as the ground was level and the tracks were dry but things got a little dicy on grades and in bad weather. 
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    « Reply #140 on: June 18, 2022, 07:47:20 pm »
    Cross another one off the bucket list!  Western Maryland Scenic Railroad (formerly Chesapeake & Ohio) #1309.  Largest steam locomotive the United States in regular revenue service (Big Boy doesn't count since UP only pulls him out maybe once a year) and the largest steam locomotive operating east of the Mississippi.
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    « Reply #141 on: June 19, 2022, 10:04:32 pm »
    Nice.   :cool    I just watched the old movie " The Train " again last night.  Hadn't seen it for several years but it is all a steam railroad junkie could ask for.  If you haven't seen it they are streaming it this week on PLUTO.   
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    « Reply #142 on: June 20, 2022, 10:22:00 am »
    The one with Burt Lancaster & Paul Schofield, where the French Resistance trying to stop a train full of stolen artwork that the Germans are "evacuating" from Paris as the Allies approach?

    That's a favorite of mine.  Criminally underrated and underappreciated film.
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    « Reply #143 on: June 20, 2022, 06:20:21 pm »
    Yes, that is the one.  Agreed on all counts.   :thumbup1

    I honestly thought it was one of Lancaster's better performances.  Maybe not quite on par with "The Birdman of Alcatraz"  but noteworthy and the supporting cast was phenomenally good.     
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    « Reply #144 on: June 21, 2022, 09:37:45 am »
    IIRC, Burt actually learned to operate and repair a steam locomotive for the role.  And there were no models used in production: EVERYTHING was full-size, real life.  And yes, they did legitimately blow up an entire actual rail yard (that had been taken out of service and was due to be torn up anyways) for that air raid sequence.  The engineer actually drove a train through the (carefully placed and timed) explosions.  Big brass ones on that guy.

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    « Reply #145 on: June 23, 2022, 10:57:24 pm »
    Yup.  No CGI stuff there.   I'm just glad I'm not the only one who remembers that movie .  .  .   :whistle
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    « Reply #146 on: July 15, 2022, 08:24:00 pm »
    I think I put up a post about the Cass Scenic Railroad in WV once before.  This one has better close-ups of the Shays locomitives, and some good WV scenery, too.



    And here's a good one on the history of that particular design:



    Borrowed from  https://chickensofcoopville.blogspot.com/
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    « Reply #147 on: August 07, 2022, 07:04:14 pm »
    Not a train this time.  Here's a very cool steam launch.


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    « Reply #148 on: August 07, 2022, 11:11:49 pm »
    Not a train this time.  Here's a very cool steam launch.




    That is really cool.  Wish the video was longer (but it looks like Reciproca is based in PA, maybe near me?), but a quick YouTube search shows that she's not the only home-made small steam launch out there.  This one looks like it's in Washington:




    And swinging the thread back to trains again...  ::) ...Papa Raptor's flying up next month, and the two of us are going to head down to Cass to ride the train up to Bald Knob.  Hopefully the site will be more cooperative with my uploading pictures this time...
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    « Reply #149 on: August 09, 2022, 02:42:28 pm »
    Sweet.  The Reciprosa is just about the cutest thing you'd ever want to see.   Nice, efficient hull for calmer inland waters and it just oozes class.

    I'm reminded, though, of the old adage about sailboats being " a hole in the water where all my money goes ". 
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