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Re: Are you a religious extremist?
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2016, 09:04:41 pm »
I agree with sarge712 above.  Don't offer harm to me or mine and don't steal from me and we are good.  It takes more than that to be a friend but following those simple guidelines will keep you off the enemy list.

That said, Christians can be abrasive.  Always wanting to tell he how Jesus saved them from drug addiction or demon rum or helped them find their car keys. I think the most annoying thing is when one tells me that, because I am an atheist, I don't really believe that thing I said but rather this thing they say. So far I have resisted the temptation to give them a dose of the other thing.

There probably are extremist Christians but Christianity itself has been pretty well tamed. Doing normal Christian things does not make one a extremist.
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    Re: Are you a religious extremist?
    « Reply #26 on: March 04, 2016, 11:55:14 pm »
    There's abrasive Christians who feel compelled to save your soul whether you want it or not, and there's abrasive atheists who feel compelled to constantly point out why belief in a higher power is foolish.

    My biggest problem with Christians is how unremarkable everyday occurrences turn into maudlin prayer requests or praiseworthy victories, and my biggest problem with atheists is condescending internet memes.
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    « Reply #27 on: March 05, 2016, 12:29:27 am »
    There's abrasive Christians who feel compelled to save your soul whether you want it or not, and there's abrasive atheists who feel compelled to constantly point out why belief in a higher power is foolish.

    My biggest problem with Christians is how unremarkable everyday occurrences turn into maudlin prayer requests or praiseworthy victories, and my biggest problem with atheists is condescending internet memes.

    Sir, where are you so that I may shake your hand? That was beautiful. Both are human, and honestly both can be kind of dicks. I've heard atheists talk about how little intelligence Christians have and I've been cornered by my Christian neighbours who were "concerned for my soul" because I wasn't going to church. They were worried that I was spending too much time studying for the medical field... May I pronounce "duh"? Any school of medicine is going to take up the majority of one's time  :bash.

    At this point I consider the term Christian to be very much similar to Feminism (Don't hit me, I haven't made my point yet!). The principles of Christianity are beautiful, absolutely altruistic and beautiful. Feminism (1st gen) principles are beautiful as well, equality is great. But when I see the population who labels themselves as Christian or Feminist, and then witness how they behave, it is a turn off. It is a feeling of "where did we go wrong? Where did things get lost in translation?". When I see "Christians" picketing soldier's funerals or "Feminists" espousing a society where men are little more than beasts of burden, then...

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    « Reply #28 on: March 05, 2016, 01:18:46 pm »
    Which is why so many Christians love the faith but can't stand the "church" and so many former feminists have backed off the hard edge of an ideology that has little to offer anyone in terms of practical applications. 

    sarge712 pretty much nailed it in terms of my thinking.   After reading the article I have to wonder if it wouldn't have been easier to list all those who are NOT considered extremists to one degree or another.   I'd like to see that list and then do a little tabulation of how many are in each category.  Wouldn't be the first time that a vocal minority with a finger on the scales of justice and power declared themselves to be the only "right thinking" people and the rest of us some combination of ignorant, foolish and evil.   :scrutiny

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    « Reply #29 on: March 13, 2016, 12:39:06 am »

    Sir, where are you so that I may shake your hand? That was beautiful. Both are human, and honestly both can be kind of dicks. I've heard atheists talk about how little intelligence Christians have and I've been cornered by my Christian neighbours who were "concerned for my soul" because I wasn't going to church. They were worried that I was spending too much time studying for the medical field... May I pronounce "duh"? Any school of medicine is going to take up the majority of one's time  :bash.

    At this point I consider the term Christian to be very much similar to Feminism (Don't hit me, I haven't made my point yet!). The principles of Christianity are beautiful, absolutely altruistic and beautiful. Feminism (1st gen) principles are beautiful as well, equality is great. But when I see the population who labels themselves as Christian or Feminist, and then witness how they behave, it is a turn off. It is a feeling of "where did we go wrong? Where did things get lost in translation?". When I see "Christians" picketing soldier's funerals or "Feminists" espousing a society where men are little more than beasts of burden, then...



    The problem with most Christians is that they take someone else's views of the Bible as gospel but never actually read the entirety instead of random verses. What I get out of the Bible is that Christianity is based on good works, humility, and service to others. Nowhere in the teachings of Jesus does he state that the laws of Leviticus were to be followed by non-Jews. Jesus' teachings, as I understand them, were simple: believe in God and put your trust in him, do unto others as you have them do unto you,it is best not judge the failings of others with a haughty demeanor, and forgive those who do wrong.

    People forget that people are just that: people. They make mistakes. But it was good in the eyes of Christians to recognize those failings and try not to make those same mistakes. Instead people are all to willing to cast stones at others in an effort to cast gazes from their own failings.


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    Re: Are you a religious extremist?
    « Reply #30 on: March 13, 2016, 10:43:49 am »
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    so many former feminists have backed off the hard edge of an ideology that has little to offer anyone in terms of practical applications.

    That's one area of extremism that makes me absolutely nuts.  -

    I have had women(mostly millennials) get positively mad at me for opening a door for them, pulling out a chair, or remaining standing until they are seated.  One waitress damn near ripped my head off for calling her ma'am.  Yet, I would suspect that most or all of these women would consider me an ass-hat of the highest oder for not changing a flat for them on the side of the road........

    Can't have it both ways baby cakes.....

    As for me, yeah, if that list is the criteria, I'm an extremist.
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    « Reply #31 on: March 13, 2016, 11:09:22 am »
    That's one area of extremism that makes me absolutely nuts.  -

    I have had women(mostly millennials) get positively mad at me for opening a door for them, pulling out a chair, or remaining standing until they are seated.  One waitress damn near ripped my head off for calling her ma'am.  Yet, I would suspect that most or all of these women would consider me an ass-hat of the highest oder for not changing a flat for them on the side of the road........

    Can't have it both ways baby cakes.....

    As for me, yeah, if that list is the criteria, I'm an extremist.

    Not to sound like an alien that just got here (or like Sheldon from the big bang theory), but humans are inconsistent and confusing as all get out  :banghead.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #32 on: March 14, 2016, 07:48:00 pm »
    Hate to beak this to you but it doesn't get better as you ( and your comtemporaries ) get older and supposedly wiser.   :facepalm
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    « Reply #33 on: March 14, 2016, 08:34:05 pm »
    Hate to beak this to you but it doesn't get better as you ( and your comtemporaries ) get older and supposedly wiser.   :facepalm

    See, now this upsets me. I would hope that in exchange for bad knees and creaky joints, we would gain some clarity  :banghead.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #34 on: March 14, 2016, 09:56:34 pm »
    See, now this upsets me. I would hope that in exchange for bad knees and creaky joints, we would gain some clarity  :banghead.

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    « Reply #35 on: March 14, 2016, 11:48:58 pm »
    See, now this upsets me. I would hope that in exchange for bad knees and creaky joints, we would gain some clarity  :banghead.
    Nope.  sarge712 is right.  And, one of the first things to go is your ability to proofread even relatively short posts like my last one.  What I MEANT to say was "Hate to break it to you .  .  . ".   :facepalm
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