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A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
« on: August 05, 2012, 02:04:08 pm »
Watching live feed on foxnews.com

Officer engaged shooter and was shot multiple times but, in Chief of Police's words, he "put the shooter down and the the shooter is lying in front of the temple."

At last word the officer had been rushed to the hospital and was alive.

One dumbarse reporter asked "Does that mean the shooter is dead?"

Prayers for the officer's recovery. He earned his mead this day.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 02:14:40 pm »
    May be a second shooter inside with hostages. Police just made second plea to cut helicopter feeds as they are giving away tactical units position. Isn't there an FAA reg or something that prevents that or is is open season? We don't have any air news coverage here so i'm in the dark on that
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 02:37:52 pm »
    God bless that cop. :thumbup1
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 02:40:16 pm »
    Thoughts and prayers for those affected by this.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 02:50:50 pm »
    Seven dead, including gunman.  Responding officer that took out the trash is in surgery for multiple GSW, status not known at this time.  This was from the press conference given by police official.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 05:27:42 pm »
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/05/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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    The police officer wounded in the assault is a 20-year veteran who was shot multiple times, Wentlandt said, but he was expected to survive. The officer was sent to the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, south of Milwaukee, after a 911 call about 10:25 a.m. (11:25 a.m. ET).

    Good job, sir. God bless, and good luck.

    Y'know, we gotta convince our wackos to come up with a different modus operandi... this s__t's getting old.

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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 06:04:17 pm »
    Y'know, we gotta convince our wackos to come up with a different modus operandi...
    A 230 grain lead slug, right between the eyes.  It's the only way.



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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 06:30:55 pm »
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/sikh-temple-shooting-175002467.html?_esi=1

    6 victims down, three in the hospital. I'm glad the officer was able to end this the right way. That shooter is a piece of filth, though, man . . . Attacking a house of worship like that.

    That said . . . How much do you want to bet that this will be used to further bash conservatives, et al? Regardless of what his motives really were, my money says this will be trumpeted far and wide as an example of violent white racist Tea Partiers showing their true colors.  :shrug

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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 06:33:20 pm »
    Firearm Free Zone = target rich environment    :facepalm
    Tho' I am surprised as I always thought Sikh's were the warrior class.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 10:46:18 pm »
    was the Sikh temple confirmed as a gun free zone?  I'm simply curious.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 11:17:10 pm »
    s___ like this is why I always, ALWAYS carry at Church.

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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #11 on: August 06, 2012, 12:45:28 am »
    Homo Sapiens is about to land the most sophisticated automated laboratory yet built on Mars and this prick picks the same weekend to shoot up a church?
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 12:50:54 am »
     :hmm You know, for almost any weekend you care to mention I could probably come up with a good reason for why it's a poor time to shoot up a church.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #13 on: August 06, 2012, 12:53:17 am »
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/suspect_police_down_outside_sikh_hLTztvtaiAJvFucMYOp1WO

    So, a white guy with a 9/11 tattoo shooting up innocent people is domestic terrorism.

    But a brown Muslim shooting up unarmed combatants about to embark on a mission is not an act of terrorism?

    Fail to see the logic behind those arguments.

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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 01:01:18 am »
    s___ like this is why I always, ALWAYS carry at Church.
    As do I.  Some guys say it's disrespectful, I say it's common sense.  Religion incites hatred and violence against others like nothing else.   I see no reason why God would frown upon someone defending his flock...  :shrug



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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #15 on: August 06, 2012, 03:02:33 am »
    Police just made second plea to cut helicopter feeds as they are giving away tactical units position. Isn't there an FAA reg or something that prevents that or is is open season? We don't have any air news coverage here so i'm in the dark on that

    Short answer...nope. It would be almost impossible to set up flight restrictions in a tactical fashion like that.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 08:43:57 am »
    was the Sikh temple confirmed as a gun free zone?  I'm simply curious.
    In Wisconsin it is up to the church's management to decide.  I'm not sure if the Sikh temple was posted or not.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #17 on: August 06, 2012, 08:44:44 am »
    As do I.  Some guys say it's disrespectful, I say it's common sense.  Religion incites hatred and violence against others like nothing else.   I see no reason why God would frown upon someone defending his flock...  :shrug



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    The Catechism of the Catholic Church puts it this way,
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    2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

    If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful.... Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.

    2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life. Preserving the common good requires rendering the unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. To this end, those holding legitimate authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their charge.
    Or as a priest friend of mine said, I doubt you are a good enough shot to disarm someone so you had better shoot to kill.


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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #19 on: August 06, 2012, 10:58:48 am »

    That said . . . How much do you want to bet that this will be used to further bash conservatives, et al? Regardless of what his motives really were, my money says this will be trumpeted far and wide as an example of violent white racist Tea Partiers showing their true colors.  :shrug

    No time wasted, as usual:

    http://twitchy.com/2012/08/05/left-blames-wisconsin-temple-shooting-on-michelle-bachmann-and-racists-like-her/
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #20 on: August 06, 2012, 07:59:41 pm »
      The Police officer did a great job.  I'm glad to see the SOb who did it is dead rather than wounded.   

    That said.....

    How the heck is THIS...considered an incident of "Domestic terrorism", and not Aurora? Or a Major going nuts on an army base? What makes THIS so special?  THe fact he's a "Right wing radical with an easily purchased 9mm".   :facepalm

      What particularly makes me angry is the the reasoning he did it. Okay, he's a nutcase, and it's never okay to go on a shooting spree, and never okay to do on a church/religious establishment.  But Fifty bucks says he did it because of "The danger of radical religions" B*S* you see on some (including gun) forums.       

    And he picked a Sikh temple  :banghead      I wouldn't condone it either way, but it goes to show the stupidity of some people.    I have a massive amount of respect for the Sikh and their religion.   

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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #21 on: August 06, 2012, 08:06:34 pm »
    Easy.  He was a white supremacist attacking a minority.  That fits the narrative.  A Muslim Army major going instant jihad and killing his coworkers does not fit the narrative.

    I swear, these people copycat each other to see who can get the most media attention.  It's truly sick.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #22 on: August 06, 2012, 08:19:37 pm »
    What makes it "Domestic terrorism" is that the guy was a white supremacist, and he targeted a specific group (granted, he shot the wrong group, but that's just makes him a really stupid white supremacist, but I repeat myself... :coffee ).

    Aurora was a lone nut targeting... everyone, so far as I can tell.

    I would call Ft. Hood domestic terrorism, for the same reason listed above: a specific group was targeted.  :shrug

    As for labelling him right-wing... well, sorry, but I just don't think he voted for Obama.  Would I consider him representative of the conservative party and ideals? No.  But you have to admit that there are elements of society that nobody on here likes that support your party - just as I'll admit the same for mine - and he apparently decided to be their posterboy this week.

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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #23 on: August 06, 2012, 09:35:42 pm »
    Actually, I would call the Hasan case trans-national Islamist terrorism, since I believe he was in contact with a person or group(s) that were overseas, or at least received funding and support from overseas.  I think he was actually in contact al Awlaki's (sp? The American born mullah who got killed via US drone without a trial in Yemen) crew, who were in Yemen.  Which just further confuses matters.

    But if the Earth First a-holes were to bomb a logging site, or burn down a crop genetics research lab, resulting in deaths, no that wouldn't be domestic terrorism, at least to the MSM.  Just random kooks.
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    Re: A mass shooting at Sikh temple in Wisconsin
    « Reply #24 on: August 06, 2012, 09:50:35 pm »
    What makes it "Domestic terrorism" is that the guy was a white supremacist, and he targeted a specific group (granted, he shot the wrong group, but that's just makes him a really stupid white supremacist

    It wasn't the wrong group for him. Any non-white, esoecially an immigrant group, is a potential target for a hard corps white supremacist. I've studied and dealt with these animals for 15+ years. He might not have known a Sikh from a Sunni but brown is brown is brown with this fluffer and his ilk.
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