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Re: Sig MPX.
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2016, 02:09:13 pm »
I've got one and I'm waiting on the stamp to come back.

It's a sweet shooting firearm even having to shoot it as a pistol.


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    « Reply #26 on: September 22, 2016, 02:38:33 pm »
    I agree with George on no t-bone charging handles. I hates'em like poison. A side charging handle is what the AR system, clone or almost alike needs.
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    Re: Sig MPX.
    « Reply #27 on: September 22, 2016, 04:02:49 pm »
    The idea of the T-Bone isn't the best but SIGs idea was to make it as similar as possible to an AR-15 for Armorer/operator purposes. It is an easier sell to LEOs, Chiefs and Sheriff's in particular, if you can say "it works just like an AR, uses a lot of the same parts and will cost you less to maintain than Brand X".


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    Re: Sig MPX.
    « Reply #28 on: September 22, 2016, 10:30:00 pm »
    Wasn't there a redesign on the magazines leaving the first generation MPX owners out in the cold for new mags?

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    « Reply #29 on: September 23, 2016, 11:34:20 am »
    Wasn't there a redesign on the magazines leaving the first generation MPX owners out in the cold for new mags?

    I believe there was a change to the mags but I think it was in the feed lips.  My friend specifically asked for Gen 2 mags.
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    « Reply #30 on: September 27, 2016, 11:54:10 am »
    I gave the MPX another look over yesterday. 
    It truly is a fine weapon, of exceptional quality.  I do like it.  It does make the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 (Can we just call it the Evo?) feel cheap by comparison.  There are a lot of things about it that I do like.  Mostly though is the Mercedes Benz like "Solid Feel" that it has.  Everything is smooth.  Everything feels good.  The only wart is the T-Bone, but if that's what one is used to, it's all good. 

    But to say that an Operator needs the T-Bone because Familiarity and can't deal with a Side Charger... I question his Operator Status. 
    I don't consider myself an Operator... or even Tactical anymore.  But I can run the s___ out of either system.  Familiarity is Crutch Claim.
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    Re: Sig MPX.
    « Reply #31 on: September 27, 2016, 02:48:13 pm »
    I gave the MPX another look over yesterday. 
    It truly is a fine weapon, of exceptional quality.  I do like it.  It does make the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 (Can we just call it the Evo?) feel cheap by comparison.  There are a lot of things about it that I do like.  Mostly though is the Mercedes Benz like "Solid Feel" that it has.  Everything is smooth.  Everything feels good.  The only wart is the T-Bone, but if that's what one is used to, it's all good. 

    But to say that an Operator needs the T-Bone because Familiarity and can't deal with a Side Charger... I question his Operator Status. 
    I don't consider myself an Operator... or even Tactical anymore.  But I can run the s___ out of either system.  Familiarity is Crutch Claim.

    While that's true, most police chiefs and sheriffs are out of touch and we're never "operators" anyway. Being able to tell bean counters something will result in less training time and having to keep less parts or sending armorers to less schools may well be the difference between your firearm being purchased over someone else's.


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    « Reply #32 on: September 30, 2016, 12:39:56 pm »

    Great weapon, lots of fun. But at $1500, I doubt it'll make a huge smash. It's a good price for what you're getting.
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    « Reply #33 on: October 02, 2016, 01:17:32 am »
    Ok, I looked it over.

    I really like it, but I can't have it with a stock and without a stamp  :facepalm. I also can't have it at $1500. If I would save up that much, I would have many other options competing for my dollar.
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    « Reply #34 on: October 02, 2016, 07:53:51 am »
    Ok, I looked it over.

    I really like it, but I can't have it with a stock and without a stamp  :facepalm. I also can't have it at $1500. If I would save up that much, I would have many other options competing for my dollar.

    Same here. There are too many other goodies I'd have first for $1500 that the MPX, good though it is, would never be a remote possibility.

    Plus I like anything bigger than a handgun to fire a rifle round. Unlike strangelittleman, I've never been a fan of sub guns or pistol caliber carbines. I understand it's appeal to VIP protective details and rear echelon troops and an elite troop that might need an extremely suppressed weapon but that's about it. Even then, there's nothing there a handgun can't do. 

    Besides, once upon a time, wasn't there a lil' gem called the MP-5? And it even had a 5.56 variant called the HK53...but you couldn't get either for $1500
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    « Reply #35 on: October 02, 2016, 11:45:49 pm »
    Subguns are not 'functionally' optimal. Rifle calibers are much better at the whole "killing people" thing by a landslide. Even through very short barrels. Yeah, back in the day, "grenade the room then hose it with 9mm or .45" was the best CQB doctrine we had. That's mostly long since passed. Unless you are Russian and don't grasp (or don't care about) 'collateral damage'. Respectfully, the only people who carry subguns are typically the folks who don't need to use them in anger. Even the MP5 has mostly fallen out of favor in terms of people that actually need to offensively use weapons.

    That said, they are just plain fun to shoot. Recoil is next to nothing, ammo is dirt cheap. My Uzi is definitely my favorite weapon to shoot. But an AR15 will serve you better for just about anything practical outside of hunting big game or vehicles.
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    « Reply #36 on: October 02, 2016, 11:54:16 pm »
    Subguns are not 'functionally' optimal. Rifle calibers are much better at the whole "killing people" thing by a landslide. Even through very short barrels. Yeah, back in the day, "grenade the room then hose it with 9mm or .45" was the best CQB doctrine we had. That's mostly long since passed. Unless you are Russian and don't grasp (or don't care about) 'collateral damage'. Respectfully, the only people who carry subguns are typically the folks who don't need to use them in anger. Even the MP5 has mostly fallen out of favor in terms of people that actually need to offensively use weapons.

    That said, they are just plain fun to shoot. Recoil is next to nothing, ammo is dirt cheap. My Uzi is definitely my favorite weapon to shoot. But an AR15 will serve you better for just about anything practical outside of hunting big game or vehicles.

    I take offense to this. Just look how gently this Russian SWAT team liberates these hostages in this training exercise.

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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Sig MPX.
    « Reply #37 on: October 03, 2016, 01:00:54 pm »
    Great weapon, lots of fun. But at $1500, I doubt it'll make a huge smash. It's a good price for what you're getting.

    My buddy picked his up for $1250 plus tax locally and I bet if you had an FFL Dealer friend that you would be able to find it for even less.  Does that change things?  I know the dealer probably only made $100-$150 on it but it moves inventory and made a customer happy.  I think at the $1200-$1250 price range, I might give it a try.  But then another couple hundred to add a stock and some extra mags, plus a tax stamp, I'm not sure if it is a wise move financially.  Fun yes but my wife will be doing this to me.    :bash
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