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Title: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 28, 2019, 06:53:03 pm
The owner of the company Sinner Mass Fabrications, was a Scout Sniper in the USMC. They do custom gun mods, but are doing a cool fundraiser, figured y’all may be interested in the 10-4 Charity Raffle.

Check out the fundraiser. You can choose where to send your portion of the donation and they give you a cool can holder for a raffle ticket! 52 total guns will be raffled off, guaranteed winner every week. [URL=https://sinnermass.com/tenfour
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 28, 2019, 07:16:04 pm
The owner of the company Sinner Mass Fabrications, was a Scout Sniper in the USMC. They do custom gun mods, but are doing a cool fundraiser, figured y’all may be interested in the 10-4 Charity Raffle.

Check out the fundraiser. You can choose where to send your portion of the donation and they give you a cool can holder for a raffle ticket! 52 total guns will be raffled off, guaranteed winner every week. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190828/4d16a98f2159c297d7d5d9471951ff65.jpg[/img]]sinnermass.com/tenfour(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190828/4d16a98f2159c297d7d5d9471951ff65.jpg) (http://sinnermass.com/tenfour[img width=800 height=1036)
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Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 28, 2019, 07:17:48 pm
The owner of the company Sinner Mass Fabrications, was a Scout Sniper in the USMC. They do custom gun mods, but are doing a cool fundraiser, figured y’all may be interested in the 10-4 Charity Raffle.

Check out the fundraiser. You can choose where to send your portion of the donation and they give you a cool can holder for a raffle ticket! 52 total guns will be raffled off, guaranteed winner every week.
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Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: cpaspr on August 28, 2019, 10:53:01 pm
Troll?
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: coelacanth on August 28, 2019, 11:00:52 pm
Probably.  Never heard of them and the posts are flashy but pretty short on information so I'm calling it click bait at this point.   :coffee

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to have a minimum post count of relevant, meaningful posts to qualify for listing an item for sale here.   :hmm
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: cpaspr on August 28, 2019, 11:18:55 pm
1.2 million hits when I goggled their name.  They may be legitimate, but "stayjueng" is an unknown entity here.
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 29, 2019, 02:41:08 am
Troll?
Hey,

Def not trolling. Very legitimate.

I’m happy to answer any questions you may have about the raffle but the website breaks down all the details and rules and also displays the featured firearms. I can post it here if you advise.

I’m new to this whole forum thing. I’m normally just on Reddit, FB, IG, but one of my friends said that these forums are a good place to share stuff like this.

Just trying to help out a small vet owned company and the charities they’re supporting.

Thank you
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 29, 2019, 02:43:09 am
1.2 million hits when I goggled their name.  They may be legitimate, but "stayjueng" is an unknown entity here.
Yes. This is my first post in this forum, but I’m not a bot or spammer. Just a customer and friend of the business owner.

Facebook and IG inhibit a lot of their advertising and a friend recommended trying to advertise in a few forums.
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 29, 2019, 02:49:03 am
Probably.  Never heard of them and the posts are flashy but pretty short on information so I'm calling it click bait at this point.   :coffee

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to have a minimum post count of relevant, meaningful posts to qualify for listing an item for sale here.   :hmm
If there’s another forum or group you would recommend that I should share this to, any guidance would be helpful. My buddy posted it to DosFrio and we had a pretty good response.

Thank you
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: coelacanth on August 29, 2019, 11:40:47 am
Well, its good to know you aren't a 'bot but you are still soliciting donations because you thought, or heard, this was a good place to do so.  I think you'll find most forums similar to this one are pretty picky about who they interact with - particularly outside the community of that forum. 

It has evolved to that point because of so much unwanted, unwarranted and frankly suspicious activity on the part of people from outside the forum communities.   You claim legitimacy and honorable intent but its not on us to verify you - its on you to verify you.  The best way to do that is to become part of the community on a forum if you are going to ask the members to trust you and become customers and supporters.  A relationship is built over time and interaction and showing up one day and posting big flashy ad content isn't the way that works.  You may be exactly what you claim to be but that remains to be seen. 

Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 29, 2019, 01:14:15 pm
Well, its good to know you aren't a 'bot but you are still soliciting donations because you thought, or heard, this was a good place to do so.  I think you'll find most forums similar to this one are pretty picky about who they interact with - particularly outside the community of that forum. 

It has evolved to that point because of so much unwanted, unwarranted and frankly suspicious activity on the part of people from outside the forum communities.   You claim legitimacy and honorable intent but its not on us to verify you - its on you to verify you.  The best way to do that is to become part of the community on a forum if you are going to ask the members to trust you and become customers and supporters.  A relationship is built over time and interaction and showing up one day and posting big flashy ad content isn't the way that works.  You may be exactly what you claim to be but that remains to be seen.
Understandable and I can totally see your viewpoint.

I went out on a limb posting this trying to help a buddy out being that there is some time limitations, didn’t have time to establish report.

By all means look into Sinner Mass. They have a great brand, product, and service and are partnered with a lot of very well established business and charities. That should relieve some anxiety of a peculiar post.

Would you recommend an all text post instead of the “flashy” flyer?
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: MTK20 on August 29, 2019, 02:12:08 pm
Understandable and I can totally see your viewpoint.

I went out on a limb posting this trying to help a buddy out being that there is some time limitations, didn’t have time to establish report.

By all means look into Sinner Mass. They have a great brand, product, and service and are partnered with a lot of very well established business and charities. That should relieve some anxiety of a peculiar post.

Would you recommend an all text post instead of the “flashy” flyer?

The flashy flyer is fine, I actually like it  :thumbup1 .

The only faux pas here is that it is generally considered taboo to post any financial proposition when you are a new member. We have this rule in place because we want a community, not a list of Craig's list ads. Your methods are fine and the post is understandable, it is just the timing of it. Had you made this same exact post after being here for 6 months, then we never would have even had this conversation.

Seeing as the post has been made and the unspoken "rule" has been broken, there's not much we can do here. No hard feelings, cos what's done is done. Feel free to join us and stick around  :cool .
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: stayjueng on August 29, 2019, 02:20:26 pm
The flashy flyer is fine, I actually like it  :thumbup1 .

The only faux pas here is that it is generally considered taboo to post any financial proposition when you are a new member. We have this rule in place because we want a community, not a list of Craig's list ads. Your methods are fine and the post is understandable, it is just the timing of it. Had you made this same exact post after being here for 6 months, then we never would have even had this conversation.

Seeing as the post has been made and the unspoken "rule" has been broken, there's not much we can do here. No hard feelings, cos what's done is done. Feel free to join us and stick around  :cool .
Cool. Thank you for the insights. I’ve found a few groups that had dedicated forums for raffles and charity. I guess it varies group to group on what is deemed appropriate post behavior based on past and present spamming situations.

But I def see your point about being established before making such a post.
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: coelacanth on August 29, 2019, 02:36:18 pm
Understandable and I can totally see your viewpoint.

I went out on a limb posting this trying to help a buddy out being that there is some time limitations, didn’t have time to establish report.

By all means look into Sinner Mass. They have a great brand, product, and service and are partnered with a lot of very well established business and charities. That should relieve some anxiety of a peculiar post.

Would you recommend an all text post instead of the “flashy” flyer?
The ad itself isn't objectionable but when posted as a first post it reinforces the impression that the forum is being used only for commercial purposes. 

The flashy flyer is fine, I actually like it  :thumbup1 .

The only faux pas here is that it is generally considered taboo to post any financial proposition when you are a new member. We have this rule in place because we want a community, not a list of Craig's list ads. Your methods are fine and the post is understandable, it is just the timing of it. Had you made this same exact post after being here for 6 months, then we never would have even had this conversation.

Seeing as the post has been made and the unspoken "rule" has been broken, there's not much we can do here. No hard feelings, cos what's done is done. Feel free to join us and stick around  :cool .

Yeah.  What he said.    :coffee
Title: Re: First Responder/Military Charity Raffle. 1 ticket=52 chances
Post by: cpaspr on August 29, 2019, 02:59:39 pm
Stayjueng -

The above are why I posted what I did about the google search for info on the company.  That many google hits indicates that the business is real.  Only further research into some of those hits will determine if the company is a stand-up good company or sketchy.

The main issue was that this was your first post, and you were an unknown quantity.  We've had a number of people come on here for one or two posts, oftentimes trying to sell something directly, or buy something that a member is offering for sale. 

The internet can be a scary place, and only time can build trust through repeated interactions on forums like this.  As an example, I recently posted a comment in a thread on another forum that I have been a member of for many years.  But that I rarely post on.  I think it was maybe my 56th post.  I'm reasonably trusted there, but mostly just because of time and the fact that the members can see a track record of my contributions, which though they are not many, are consistent with the general mindset there.

So, stick around, kick the tires, get involved.