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Which Steel Target
« on: December 09, 2012, 02:53:26 am »
I'm looking at buying a steel target, mainly for pistol use.

I really want an IPSC target. It's big, so I can work on my speed while still seeing my hits if I get sloppy.

Brownell's has MGM targets significantly cheaper than buying direct from MGM (with my mil discount on Brownell's). They have two I'm interested in.

The first is a Full Size IPSC. This is just what I want.

Buuuttt......

They also have the BC Zone IPSC, which is just the B and C zones, plus the head. Smaller, which isn't necessarily bad, but I can't see where my sloppy shots go. The plusses are a 30* angle, so it can be engaged closer, and the stand uses a 2x4, which I can replace a lot easier than if I chew up the metal stand on the full-size IPSC. That also makes it easier to transport and store, though with a pickup and a 3-car garage, those aren't huge issues.

The discounted prices are $235 vs $233, so a non-issue.

So let's hear some input, or even other product ideas.
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 12:19:56 pm »
    I get my steel locally.  Much better prices, and at least equal, often better, quality.  And no shipping charge (which can be significant).



    That's a half-inch AR500 plate.  Has taken everything I've thrown at it.  .22LR up to .45-70 and shotgun slugs.

    Is that an option for you (buying local)?


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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 12:44:37 pm »
      Around here there isn't that option, a few guys selling at most, 6" or 12" round AR-400 steel targets.     AR-400 is all you can find locally so it's long-range softpoint only rifle, or handgun (I've got a couple for handgun use).

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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 12:48:03 pm »
    Wideners has AR500 targets for sale.


    http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=1020
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 01:30:08 pm »
    Is that an option for you (buying local)?

    I plan to ask around. I'm fairly well acquainted in the shooting circles in the new town already. Back in Texas, I could have had anything made by guys I knew, but they all had the stuff already, so I didn't need to get my own.
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 01:58:17 pm »
    You might take a look at Tac-Strike.  A little more expensive that the prices you have quoted but, Rob has a proven system and good customer service.  [url=http://tacstrike.com/STEEL-TARGETS/TacStrike-1-4-Scale-Steel-Target-System.html]http://tacstrike.com/STEEL-TARGETS/TacStrike-1-4-Scale-Steel-Target-System.html [/url]

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    « Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 01:15:49 pm »
    I plan to ask around. I'm fairly well acquainted in the shooting circles in the new town already. Back in Texas, I could have had anything made by guys I knew, but they all had the stuff already, so I didn't need to get my own.

    Well, as an aside if you can't find local, if you ever manage to find yourself wandering around Arizona to shoot with those crazy bastards, I can set you up with local guys here.


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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 06:16:47 pm »
    If it comes to that, it looks like you have a nice target. But I have other possibilities within much less distance.
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #8 on: December 11, 2012, 03:12:55 am »
    Coleburn would recommend http://www.jcsteeltargets.com/purchase.php.

    Full size IPSC in 3/8" AR500 lists $185 shipped, although I don't think that includes brackets (which are listed on same page).
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #9 on: December 11, 2012, 11:18:21 am »
    Coleburn would recommend http://www.jcsteeltargets.com/purchase.php.

    Full size IPSC in 3/8" AR500 lists $185 shipped, although I don't think that includes brackets (which are listed on same page).


    Yes I would, not only after seeing the quality first hand, but also watching it stand up to hundreds of high speed rifle rounds. The price is significantly cheaper and it goes to support a really good cause. http://www.jlacademy.org/
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 12:11:00 am »
    Revival

    I got steel!

    A friend went down to the local metal supply and they had some scrap 3/8" steel they couldn't identify, but said they couldn't drill through. He had it cut into one 24"x48" chunk and then got a bunch of small plates from the remnant. They sold it, cut for $50 and asked us for a range report.

    So today we scavenged some 2x4's from a guy we know, got some saw horse brackets and built a stand. We designed it to be cheap and easy to repair if we shoot it. The whole rack costs $22 at Lowe's to replace. We got some chain and S-hooks to hang the target from the top beam.

    Then we sprayed it with the cheapest spraypaint we could find. I used an IPSC target as a stencil.

    Here's the finished product, with yours truly posing, at the range.


    So we got to shooting it. First up was my STI Edge in .40 with my handloaded 175gr LSWC at roughly 1050FPS. My buddy was shooting his .45 185gr JHP handloads at 950fps. both barely removed the paint.


    So we moved up to American Eagle 55gr .223 (black box) and XM193 at 50yd. The damage looks way worse in the picture than it really is. Very light dimpling on the front. We saw almost no damage at 100yd with these loads, but we'll be moving it back farther for rifle work.


    Last, my buddy put his 175gr A-Max .308 on it at 100yds. Similar damage as the .223 at 50yd and M856 at 100yd. Very minor, but like I said, these will be used much further out for rifle work.


    At the end of the day, this is the big target. We have about 10 small plates, and we went back and bought the rest of this scrap, four 24"x24" plates for $65. So...uhhh....we gots targets.




    Total, we got about $30 in the stand (including chains) and $115 in the 28sq/ft of steel targets, and $8 worth of spray paint. Not bad, if you ask me.
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    Re: Which Steel Target
    « Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 12:27:25 am »
    SWEET!!!  You lucked out on some good steel there.  Congrats!   :thumbup1


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