Author Topic: Surpluss cleaning kit? (Read 14943 times)

American Rifleman · « **on:** October 05, 2009, 06:58:59 pm »

I saw a couple of nice Mauser cleaning kits on IMA-USA.com, they were both surpluss, one was made in 1938, the other is WWII production. the first one is 34.95, the second is 29.95. Are they worth getting? If so which one is best to buy?

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JesseL · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2009, 07:01:15 pm »

Do you want it for the history, or to get your gun clean?

American Rifleman · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2009, 07:04:13 pm »

To be frank, I'd like both, considering I already have other modern cleaning supplies.

Outbreak · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2009, 09:29:18 pm »

One warning I'll throw out about surplus cleaning kits made to go with certain guns. They work great on those guns, and in some cases, like the Garand kit I have, or a Mosin Nagant kit, they come with special tools you may need to detail strip the gun.

However. You can't really use them on any other guns, especially if those guns are of smaller caliber than the original. F'rinstance, a Garand or Mosin kit will not work on a .22LR or .223Rem barrel. The cleaning rod and tools that go on the end are too big. The Mosin uses the attached cleaning rod, so if your barrel is shorter or longer than the Mosin, it either won't reach the length of your barrel, or more likely, it'll be too freakin long to be useful.

However, if there's a Mauser in your safe, or future, jump on it!

American Rifleman · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2009, 09:42:58 pm »

Yah, I want to buy it for a kar98k,so it makes sense. I thinking of the more expensive 1938 kit, because pre-war production is supposed to be better made. Have any thoughts?

Outbreak · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2009, 12:48:50 am »

Yeah. We're talking about a cleaning kit, not the weapon itself. No one I know blows a lot of money on a "high end" cleaning rod, or "better quality" patches. I use a cheap, aluminum, universal cleaning kit for all my guns, and it works just fine. Yeah, I have the Garand kit that I use occasionally for the Garand. I rarely use the Mosin kit because that cleaning rod is a PITA to unscrew from under the barrel.

If you want a specific kit for historical or collector value,or because of the special tools included, by all means get it. And if you want to use it to clean that particular gun, knock yourself out. The idea of favoring one kit over another because it's a better made kit sounds like you're putting your gun money in the wrong places.

Now, cleaning PRODUCTS, on the other hand. Yeah, get the good stuff. I've been using Hoppes No. 9 for years and it's never done me wrong. I just tried MPro7 gun cleaner and it's very very good stuff. Plus it comes in a pump spray bottle, so its a lot easier to work with, IMHO.

For lube, I've been using REM Oil and Hoppes Oil for years as well.

No more. Slipstream, from Crusader Weaponry and WTA's very own GunDoctor is the way to go.

ksuguy · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2009, 12:56:34 am »

My favorite are the swiss cleaning kits that were all over the place a few years ago. Hard to beat for $5.

FMJ · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:10:50 am »

M Pro 7, I want to try that especially because it is non-toxic.

On an unrelated note, what's the deal about Hoppes and nickel finishes?

Outbreak · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:15:44 am »

Unknown to me. I've never owned anything with a nickel finish. Stainless, blued, parkerized, and a half dozen proprietary manufacturers' finishes and no problems.

Quote from: FMJ on October 06, 2009, 01:10:50 am

M Pro 7, I want to try that especially because it is non-toxic.

WHAT?!?!? Didn't know that. Better throw that s___ out.

American Rifleman · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2009, 06:22:38 pm »

So there isn't one then?

FMJ · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2009, 06:38:26 pm »

Quote from: Outbreak on October 06, 2009, 01:15:44 am

WHAT?!?!? Didn't know that. Better throw that s___ out.

I actually learned that from someone here on WTA.

American Rifleman · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2009, 07:12:51 pm »

From who?

FMJ · « **Reply #12 on:** October 06, 2009, 07:20:30 pm »

I don't remember.

But this is from M-Pro 7's website.

Quote

M-Pro 7 uses a unique blend of chemical technologies containing corrosion inhibitors and surfactants with a non-toxic solvent base to provide superior cleaning without the intense smell. Even on a "clean" weapon, M-Pro 7 Gun Cleaner will remove additional carbon left behind in the bore by other gun cleaning products.

http://www.mpro7.com/MPro7-Faqs.html#How%20MP7%20works

GeorgeHill · « **Reply #13 on:** October 06, 2009, 10:08:26 pm »

MPRO-7 Cleaner is freaking awesome. I like it better than everything else, by far.

American Rifleman · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:11:11 am »

How expencive is it?

Thernlund · « **Reply #15 on:** October 07, 2009, 12:08:15 pm »

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/47941-1.html

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/47942-1.html

-T.

Canthros · « **Reply #16 on:** October 07, 2009, 12:50:58 pm »

Quote from: FMJ on October 06, 2009, 01:10:50 am

On an unrelated note, what's the deal about Hoppes and nickel finishes?

Many nickel finishes are deposited by electroplating over a copper base layer (the copper being plated over the bare steel, if I'm not mistaken). Any cleaner meant to get out copper fouling can eat up the copper under the nickel plate, and then the nickel comes off.

American Rifleman · « **Reply #17 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:05:57 pm »

And it's the good stuff, right? Only the brest for my guns.

JesseL · « **Reply #18 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:08:01 pm »

Quote from: American Rifleman on October 07, 2009, 06:05:57 pm

And it's the good stuff, right? Only the brest for my guns.

Legs and thighs are good enough for my guns.

American Rifleman · « **Reply #19 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:08:30 pm »

About those specialty receiver cleaning devices, how do they work?

FMJ · « **Reply #20 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:16:04 pm »

Quote from: JesseL on October 07, 2009, 06:08:01 pm

Legs and thighs are good enough for my guns.

I clean mine with "Litovsk."
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Define specialty receiver cleaning device please.

American Rifleman · « **Reply #21 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:18:17 pm »

Fmj you are no more qualified to answer my question than I am.

FMJ · « **Reply #22 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:20:32 pm »

Well, what do you mean about specialty equipment? Are you talking about a particular solvent or lubricant? Are you talking about a certain cleaning tool?

American Rifleman · « **Reply #23 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:23:46 pm »

I am talking about a specific cleaning tool, I did say receiver cleaning device, did I not?

FMJ · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2009, 06:25:39 pm »

Got a picture?

Because as you may have realized, receivers come in all shapes and sizes...

It just sounds vague, that's all.