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Title: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: RMc on July 10, 2019, 05:02:10 pm
The year was 1911, "Big Tim (Sullivan) was already suffering from tertiary syphilis when he wrote his (concealed carry) law. He went mad soon thereafter and was sent to a sanitarium in 1912. He eventually escaped. His severed body was found on railroad tracks in The Bronx in August 1913."    :coffee

https://nypost.com/2012/01/16/the-strange-birth-of-nys-gun-laws/

This was NYC in 1911:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aohXOpKtns0

Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: coelacanth on July 10, 2019, 08:49:36 pm
Nope.  Nowhere near the edge.    :coffee
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: LowKey on July 10, 2019, 11:35:56 pm
Nope.  Nowhere near the edge.    :coffee
The syphilis may not have been the immediate reason why he was on the tracks .
He was at the higher levels of the Democratic Party in NYC at the time, and as his mental faculties began to go others may have been concerned about what he might say.
While the tertiary syphilis wasn't going to leave him the sanest of people, I doubt it would lead him to escaping a locked down ward just to go and sleep on train tracks,

Sort of Arkancide before Arkancide was a thing.  :coffee
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: Chief45 on July 11, 2019, 09:52:04 am
Probably had information on the Rodham family and,  well,   . . .  :panic
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: LowKey on July 11, 2019, 01:26:32 pm
Probably had information on the Rodham family and,  well,   . . .  :panic
I don't believe the Rodham family were in the halls of power at that time.

Sullivan's knowledge and potential leakage of the inner workings of Tammany Hall would probably been motive enough.
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: RMc on July 11, 2019, 01:56:42 pm
The edge of madness, was the Sullivan Act - designed to protect the gangland enforcers of the Tammany Hall, (Democratic Party), political machine while disarming the general population.   

Yes, foul play against Sullivan was suspected but never proved. 

And street sweepers continued to collect horse pucky from NYC streets.
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: coelacanth on July 11, 2019, 10:10:07 pm
I personally think it went well beyond the boundary - hence my comment.   One man's opinion  .  .  .  that sort of thing.   :cool
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: RMc on July 12, 2019, 12:24:22 am
 :hmm

Perhaps, the title of this thread should have read:

1911 NYC Sullivan Act - Descent into Madness!
Title: Re: 1911 NYC Sullivan Act - The Edge of Madness!
Post by: coelacanth on July 12, 2019, 01:39:14 am
 :thumbup1