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Empty handed skills.
« on: January 27, 2017, 05:54:21 PM »
A thread started by our very own Steven Ting has prompted some thought about self defense in an area we don't often talk about. Firing while under attack/being mauled or fighting for your gun in order to use it.

This is the thread: http://wethearmed.com/general-firearms-discussion/force-on-force-training/msg423129/#msg423129

And this video which prompted my thoughts on the subject: http://www.carbontv.com/shows/beyond-breaking/episodes/1/?component=recent-episodes

It got me to thinking about something very overlooked in the self defense community. We often talk about a smooth draw and putting accurate rounds on target, but there is a very real chance that we may not perform any of those actions like we are used to at the range. We might have to shoot with our off hand, because the other one is injured. Or drawing and firing from lying on our back, or even shooting an attacker who is physically grappling us or hitting us.

The violence that someone else could bring upon us can be gritty, messy, scary, and even down right bizarre (below is a video of a man doing a drive by from a bicycle that turns into a 3 minute long fist fight... For instance  :coffee).

Every field of fire is different and every self defense situation will be: random, violent, and out of our control/from ambush (the bad guy always chooses when to launch an attack on us and most times it is a surprise attack).

One cannot prepare for every encounter, but it is something to consider.







Officer fights in close quarters against a bat wielding man:



As John said: "A gunfight is still a fight, there just happens to be guns involved".
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Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Empty handed skills.
    « Reply #1 on: January 27, 2017, 11:09:38 PM »
    Not a "get to a gun", video, but this Chinese boy defends himself from 5 other boys and wins. Most impressive.

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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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