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Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
« on: April 30, 2016, 11:32:30 am »


For discussion!  :cool

Is the drill "outdated"? Is it academically or tactically unsound like the youtuber suggests?
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Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #1 on: April 30, 2016, 11:50:54 am »
    Couldn't get past 58 Seconds.  If you are going to talk about something - do not tell people to go google it.
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #2 on: April 30, 2016, 12:07:59 pm »
    Quote from: GeorgeHill on April 30, 2016, 11:50:54 am
    Couldn't get past 58 Seconds.  If you are going to talk about something - do not tell people to go google it.
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #3 on: April 30, 2016, 01:25:18 pm »
      Yet another walking, talking cliche of a tactical guru trying to make themselves shine like a ruby in a goat's ass, but simply end up looking and smelling like the goat's ass.
      So many clichés I don't even know where to begin...He filled out most of the check list, except for the operator beard...Thank fluff for that at least...



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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #4 on: April 30, 2016, 01:52:47 pm »
    That was a really long video to just say, 'Keep shooting till the threat stops'. :shrug
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #5 on: April 30, 2016, 03:08:59 pm »
    He was delivering solid center mass shots to the chest and face doing the Mozambique drill and fringe shots and misses doing three to the face but it was significantly faster! :facepalm

    He completely lost me when he brought out his Kinetic Glock or whatever the eff it was that didn't have sights so he can practice point shooting. Point shooting means video gets shut off instantly!

    We did a lot of Mozambique drills when I was on SWAT but we also did a lot of shooting center mass until the threat goes away. It gets preprogrammed on the hard drive. One Sims/ FoF drill I was run through involved a short range shooting. The actor was told don't go down until they shoot you in the head. Four fast shots to the chest without a reaction and I transitioned to the face with two and he went down. It was a reaction based on training and I did it without thinking about it.

    The only thing I liked about this was he said shoot to the face instead of the head.

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #6 on: April 30, 2016, 04:34:29 pm »
     :rotfl Kinesthetic Shooting...HAHAHA! Kinesthetic indeed!  :rotfl
      I took a big ole Kinesthetic s___ today...or was a tactile poop?...I can't remember, but anyway I didn't get any on on my fingers, nor did I get any on the floor and that's what's important. :rotfl
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #7 on: April 30, 2016, 05:01:04 pm »
    Quote from: strangelittleman on April 30, 2016, 04:34:29 pm
    :rotfl Kinesthetic Shooting...HAHAHA! Kinesthetic indeed!  :rotfl
      I took a big ole Kinesthetic s___ today...or was a tactile poop?...I can't remember, but anyway I didn't get any on on my fingers, nor did I get any on the floor and that's what's important. :rotfl

    If you didn't touch it, then it wasn't "tactile". At least..... I hope it wasn't tactile  :shocked.
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #8 on: April 30, 2016, 05:05:41 pm »
    Quote from: MTK20 on April 30, 2016, 05:01:04 pm
    If you didn't touch it, then it wasn't "tactile". At least..... I hope it wasn't tactile  :shocked.
    The Tactile part was the wiping.
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #9 on: April 30, 2016, 09:04:17 pm »
    I'll let his holiness, the Dalai Lama speak for himself.





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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #10 on: April 30, 2016, 10:40:44 pm »
      Dali Lame-ass (The world's most celebrated moocher) hasn't "operated" too well against the ChiComs...

      Two to the chest, the rest to the face probably has more to do w/his nocturnal activities than w/ his firearms skills.


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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #11 on: April 30, 2016, 11:03:10 pm »
    What the fluff happened to my thread, guys?  :facepalm  :bash

    Did we really go from pistolcraft tactics to the Dalai llama picking up strange?  :scrutiny
    It's official, this is one talented group  :rotfl.

    /end thread drift.
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #12 on: April 30, 2016, 11:16:03 pm »
    Quote from: strangelittleman on April 30, 2016, 10:40:44 pm
      Dali Lame-ass (The world's most celebrated moocher) hasn't "operated" too well against the ChiComs...

      Two to the chest, the rest to the face probably has more to do w/his nocturnal activities than w/ his firearms skills.


    Yes, he is full of it, its part of the joke floating around social media.  My bad... :facepalm

    Which actually brings me to my next question, where can I find one of these on sale?  Seems disturbingly appropriate to leave on my desk at work as a paperweight.

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #13 on: April 30, 2016, 11:26:19 pm »
    Quote from: MTK20 on April 30, 2016, 11:03:10 pm
    What the fluff happened to my thread, guys?  :facepalm  :bash

    Did we really go from pistolcraft tactics to the Dalai llama picking up strange?  :scrutiny

      Hey! he never once picked me up. Dali did one time, grab my ass as I walked by and asked me if I worked out, at the National Prayer Breakfast in the White House back in 1997....

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #14 on: April 30, 2016, 11:29:47 pm »
    Quote from: louie the lumberjack on April 30, 2016, 11:16:03 pm
    Yes, he is full of it, its part of the joke floating around social media.  My bad... :facepalm

    Which actually brings me to my next question, where can I find one of these on sale?  Seems disturbingly appropriate to leave on my desk at work as a paperweight.

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      No I sure wouldn't...I'd kinda like one as well...
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    « Reply #15 on: April 30, 2016, 11:30:43 pm »
    Quote from: strangelittleman on April 30, 2016, 10:40:44 pm
      Dali Lame-ass (The world's most celebrated moocher) hasn't "operated" too well against the ChiComs...
    The only reason he is anyone to anybody outside of his religion, is he is the last remaining reminder that there used to be a Tibet.  Once he dies, and the Chinese government picks his successor, no one will care who or what the Daily Llama is.
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #16 on: April 30, 2016, 11:35:06 pm »
    *backs out of the thread slowly*
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #20 on: May 01, 2016, 12:38:09 am »
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #21 on: May 01, 2016, 12:53:22 am »
    Yeah, that happens a lot around here, these days.  I'm as guilty as anyone. :shrug
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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #22 on: May 01, 2016, 01:14:42 am »


    Well I was all set to critique the video while moderately defending point shooting as another tool in the toolbox, but...


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    « Reply #23 on: May 01, 2016, 01:19:56 am »
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    Quote from: GeorgeHill on September 20, 2015, 08:18:34 pm
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: Dissecting the Mozambique Drill.
    « Reply #24 on: May 01, 2016, 03:15:02 am »
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      ...shine like a ruby in a goat's ass,

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