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NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
« on: January 06, 2017, 11:00:39 PM »
I've been looking for a side saddle for a few months now after deciding that it was time to replace my original plastic craptastic NC star sidesaddle that sheared off about three years ago, (Okay- I move slow. deal with it.) I'd have liked a Mesa Tactical eight shell, but Dang that thing is expensive and huge. the six rounder is more realistic, but still $75. which is all of my expendable income.

I had a whole story about how I found this- but it was over the top and way to long. so:
I picked this thing up for $15 at Fuquay gun, it's 6061 aluminum. has the same style of rubber retainer as Mesa uses, and came with a section of completely inadequate velcro to secure it to the receiver.
I sectioned out some M3 5958FR and covered the whole back of it and slapped it on to the receiver with some weights for a few days to ensure good adhesion.
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it holds shells firmly, so they don't fall out under recoil. it actually holds them hard enough to squish the buckshot I keep in it. It holds the slugs much harder then any shot-shells.

for 15 bucks. it's not bad.



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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #1 on: January 07, 2017, 12:05:25 AM »
    yeah, they seem decent enough and they don't look bad at all. Amazon had them for $12.70 a while back so i bought 3 of them. the 2x slides off a bit too easily but i guess if you are going to attach it with H&L tape it doesn't matter.  The reviews said the tape it came with was pretty decent.  I bought a bunch of 4"x10" "industrial" strength stuff for a backup in case it sucked.  I like the idea of being able to remove them quickly.   
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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #2 on: January 07, 2017, 10:43:40 AM »
    considering the amount of things I've had come flying off this gun under recoil? (flashlights, the original side saddle, the trigger housing, ect.)
    North Carolina"it has two fire modes, safe, and most decidedly unsafe"
    ~Chief Warrant Leon McMurdo. Shilo Mountain Rangers, sixth battalion. Mount Hector School of Military tactics. November 8th 3451.

    Yes. When the question is 1911, the answer is "yes". ~HVS

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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #3 on: January 07, 2017, 01:26:00 PM »
    considering the amount of things I've had come flying off this gun under recoil? (flashlights, the original side saddle, the trigger housing, ect.)

    The trigger housing?   :shocked :confused
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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #4 on: January 07, 2017, 02:07:13 PM »
    pin walked out. which is why I have an antiwalk pin.
    North Carolina"it has two fire modes, safe, and most decidedly unsafe"
    ~Chief Warrant Leon McMurdo. Shilo Mountain Rangers, sixth battalion. Mount Hector School of Military tactics. November 8th 3451.

    Yes. When the question is 1911, the answer is "yes". ~HVS

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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #5 on: January 08, 2017, 03:57:18 PM »
    Looks good to me.  Perhaps a duty report at your convenience.   :thumbup1
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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 01:24:56 PM »
    shell retention: 9/10. strangely, this isn't a 9 because of it dropping shells. it's 9 because it's difficult to actually remove shells in the heat of the moment. it's also to tight to accept snap-caps in the front 3 slots. the only one that is "perfect" it the fourth from the front, it holds tight under recoil, but slides out without a fuss when you pull on the brass.

    durability: 8/10. it's 6061 aluminum, with an aluminum back-plate, the rubber retainers are a wear point, but for $15 you can get a new one when they finally bite it.

    Fit and finish: 6/10. the finish is hard anodizing. it's even and black and there are not obvious machine marks. fit is inconsistent. with some loops holding much tighter then others. and the dovetailed +2 section being rather loose and rattly. I'd glue them to together if I was using this with Velcro.

    Provided hardware: 3/10. the provided Velcro is cheap off name brand, paper backed and both wider and longer then the carrier. it's also painfully cheap. 3 minutes of gentle abuse (putting it together and pulling it apart) has it looking like the Velcro on my dads first set of ACU's after significantly more abuse. it lost much of it's hold, shedding both hooks and loops. frankly I'm glad I passed on it. I would suggest using real heavy duty Velcro if you want hook and loop.
    North Carolina"it has two fire modes, safe, and most decidedly unsafe"
    ~Chief Warrant Leon McMurdo. Shilo Mountain Rangers, sixth battalion. Mount Hector School of Military tactics. November 8th 3451.

    Yes. When the question is 1911, the answer is "yes". ~HVS

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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2017, 05:59:00 PM »
    i used S&B 00Buck and found the fit to be snug but not too tight to where i thought they would cause a problem.  The A-Zoom caps were a bit more snug but i didn't have to force them in.  I haven't run any loading drills or gotten it out to the range yet so maybe i'll find they are too tight.  Just taking one or two out didn't seem to be an issue.

    I'd agree the velcro doesn't look like it is very good, but I cut both sides down to just a hair smaller than the carrier (including the +2) and swabbed the receiver and carrier real well with alcohol.  It seems to be holding really well, i've attached and removed the carrier several times with no sign of it pulling loose.  Since the +2 and the +4 are on the same velcro strip there is no rattle or looseness, the whole unit is pretty stiff. 

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    Thomas Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in Chapter 40 of "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764

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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2017, 06:15:21 PM »
    I did maybe 100 cycles. if you have multiples so you can reload the side of the gun you'll  wear them out quicker.
    if you only have and intend to use one, might as well use the 5958.
    North Carolina"it has two fire modes, safe, and most decidedly unsafe"
    ~Chief Warrant Leon McMurdo. Shilo Mountain Rangers, sixth battalion. Mount Hector School of Military tactics. November 8th 3451.

    Yes. When the question is 1911, the answer is "yes". ~HVS

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    Re: NC star aluminum 4/6 universal shell saddle
    « Reply #9 on: January 09, 2017, 06:25:55 PM »
    I did maybe 100 cycles. if you have multiples so you can reload the side of the gun you'll  wear them out quicker.
    if you only have and intend to use one, might as well use the 5958.

    Yeah, i have 3 of them, so i was planning on swapping them on and off for reloading, if for some reason i ever had to.  I haven't messed with it much so we'll see how it goes.  I did buy extra "industrial" streagnth stuff that was rated pretty well so i can always throw that on.
    MinnesotaKevin - Stillwater, MN

    "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

    Thomas Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in Chapter 40 of "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764

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