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Mossberg 590 Shockwave
« on: April 02, 2017, 04:54:18 PM »


I want one badly, but I would probably be better served by the standard 590, no?

I would love this as a car gun though.

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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #1 on: April 02, 2017, 09:58:40 PM »
    LOVE IT.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #2 on: April 02, 2017, 10:08:53 PM »
    Meh. Not interested. Unless, of course, I had one of these to go with it...

          
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #3 on: April 02, 2017, 10:38:01 PM »
    Meh. Not interested. Unless, of course, I had one of these to go with it...

    Doesn't much matter, unless you are planning to move out of PA.  Excepting only registered Short Barreled Shotguns, shotguns with barrels less than 18" are forbidden by PA law.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #4 on: April 02, 2017, 10:57:27 PM »
       I'm very interested.   Not as primary self defence weapon.    But handy in a few instances for space and weight saving. 
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #5 on: April 02, 2017, 11:14:42 PM »
    Doesn't much matter, unless you are planning to move out of PA.  Excepting only registered Short Barreled Shotguns, shotguns with barrels less than 18" are forbidden by PA law.

    Phooey. Oh well.  :shrug  Honestly, I probably wouldn't buy it even if I could carry it around in that rig. I don't really care for shotguns to begin with, and to be frank this strikes me as being pretty much useless for anything other than being a range toy.

    MTK20, per your original question, the InRange TV crew did a video a while back comparing PGO shotguns and stocked shotguns in the home-defense role. Based on that, I think you'd be much better served with a regular 590 or 590A1.



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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #6 on: April 03, 2017, 12:07:02 AM »
    Phooey. Oh well.  :shrug  Honestly, I probably wouldn't buy it even if I could carry it around in that rig.

    I don't really care for shotguns to begin with, and to be frank this strikes me as being pretty much useless for anything other than being a range toy.

    See, I am just the opposite.  I would buy one to put behind the truck seat.  I was actually looking into it, when I saw a discussion on PAFOA that more or less spelled out why PA law says it is illegal.

    What types of shotguns have you tried?  I ask because I was never a big fan of shotguns until recently.  I have a Benelli that was my first shotgun, and while a quality weapon, it doesn't mesh with me well.  Then I bought a plain Mossberg 500, which once again is a fine weapon, but it does nothing to excite me.  Then I got into hammer doubles, and I like them, I do, but more for the historical/cultural significance and less as 'weapons.'  They are for shooting groundhogs, not people.

    Then our Illustrious Leader had his upset victory over the Witch, (Sieg Heil!) and part of my celebration was to buy a Remington 870.  An 18" Wingmaster model, the serial number says it was born in May 1980.  This shotgun was well worn, and the stock needed refinished.  After refinishing the wood, cutting it down and installing a recoil pad, and replacing the springs, I have found that I very much like this gun.  So much so that is one of only two of my guns that have names.  It is a keeper.

    My point...  Try different types of shotguns.  What works for me might not work for you.  Try different brands, too.  When my only experience with pump guns was the Mossberg, I thought them the dumbest idea ever... Now knowing the Remington, they are my favorite type of shotguns.
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    « Reply #7 on: April 03, 2017, 12:17:29 PM »
    Hahahahah! I love Clint Smith. I want one of those as a breaching gun. I'm using a Winchester Defender right now as our breaching gun and I hates it like poison. I need to add a Mossberg 590 to my collection as well. It might as well be this one then I'll see if I can get the PD to buy a pair.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #8 on: April 03, 2017, 01:05:43 PM »
      I'm a fan of 590's.   I just picked up a used one in fact  :hmm   20" 8+1 shot with heat shield and bayonet lug. $275.        You won't go wrong with them.    I myself am a huge Mossberg fan.   I havea  Maverick 88 that has.....I honestly don't know but MANY, MANY thousands of rounds through it, 7+1 20" that I love as well.   

        I am a HUGE shotgun fan.  They're versatile and work well in a lot of roles.   I don't care for them to have a lot of crap on them and I like them "slick".  I don't care for pistol grip buttstocks even because I like how "trim" a pump shotgun is and how snag-free they are.       This shockwave fills a small role.   A tractor gun, easily packed and still easy to roll a gopher or troublesome bird and also as a bike gun, for just fun plinking or self-defence camping overnight.   Lightweight and compact. 

       
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    « Reply #9 on: April 03, 2017, 06:49:43 PM »
    I owned one that I made with the Shockwave Raptor lug.  It was fun putting it together and was great for a truck gun or bugout gun.  It was a little rough trying to shoot it at any distance farther than 25 yds, but it would be devastating up close.  I took my wife to an indoor range and we took the shorty shotty along.  After she shot it, she did not like it (and hit the ceiling because she was aiming too high trying to hip fire it), and it has been the only gun she has ever requested I sell.  She was worried about the spread indoors and the potential to hit the children if she ever had to use it, even though realistically it would be perfect at any range in our house.  I complied and sold it (because she is the best wife ever and has purchased a few guns for me as Christmas presents, along with letting me buy guns and ammo when I want/need to in accordance with the budget).


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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #10 on: April 03, 2017, 08:09:24 PM »

    What types of shotguns have you tried? 

    My point...  Try different types of shotguns.  What works for me might not work for you.  Try different brands, too.  When my only experience with pump guns was the Mossberg, I thought them the dumbest idea ever... Now knowing the Remington, they are my favorite type of shotguns.

    I've only shot Remingtons: 2x 870 Express Tacticals and a VersaMax Competiton Tactical. One Remington had a "regular" stock on it, the other had a Knoxx/Blackhawk! SpecOps recoil reducing buttstock. They were all rentals at the range I used to frequent outside Philly. The 870 with the SpecOps stock wasn't really bad, and neither was the VersaMax (when it didn't jam), but the 870 with the regular stock was just brutal. I blame me more than the shotgun: I messed up my right shoulder somehow when I was a kid and it didn't really heal right, so heavy-recoiling firearms are extremely painful for me. And I'm so right-hand and right-eye dominant that shooting off my left shoulder is awkward to the point of being uncomfortable. I know, the latter is a training issue, but learning/teaching myself to do that on an indoor range with a 12-gauge stoked with 00-buck probably isn't particularly smart or safe.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #11 on: April 03, 2017, 09:19:56 PM »
      There is a lot of adjustment to recoil as well  ;)  One "can" get used to stuff over time.  Going from something like 5.56 to 12 gauge buckshot is a heckuva leap.    Tried any of the lighter trap/skeet loads? 
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #12 on: April 03, 2017, 09:28:59 PM »
    I've only shot Remingtons: 2x 870 Express Tacticals and a VersaMax Competiton Tactical. One Remington had a "regular" stock on it, the other had a Knoxx/Blackhawk! SpecOps recoil reducing buttstock. They were all rentals at the range I used to frequent outside Philly. The 870 with the SpecOps stock wasn't really bad, and neither was the VersaMax (when it didn't jam), but the 870 with the regular stock was just brutal. I blame me more than the shotgun: I messed up my right shoulder somehow when I was a kid and it didn't really heal right, so heavy-recoiling firearms are extremely painful for me. And I'm so right-hand and right-eye dominant that shooting off my left shoulder is awkward to the point of being uncomfortable. I know, the latter is a training issue, but learning/teaching myself to do that on an indoor range with a 12-gauge stoked with 00-buck probably isn't particularly smart or safe.

    Don't feel bad Raptor,
    On my last day of spring break, I decided to go to the range and shot about 3 boxes (give or take) out of my airweight 642 in one go and my stupid hand busted open  :panic. As I was cleaning it, I actually had some dried blood on the back strap of the gun  :shocked.

    It's a reminder than I need to shoot more often, so I can trade this pair of soft b____ hands for some man hands :hide .

     
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #13 on: April 03, 2017, 09:46:02 PM »
      There is a lot of adjustment to recoil as well  ;)  One "can" get used to stuff over time.  Going from something like 5.56 to 12 gauge buckshot is a heckuva leap.    Tried any of the lighter trap/skeet loads? 

    Nope. I've only ever use shotguns on indoor ranges that were buck and/or slugs only. No birdshot allowed.

    Actually, I think the only long guns up to that point were .22 rimfires and a select-fire 9mm SMG. That said, I know it's my shoulder that's screwed up rather than me just being a wimp because I did shoot the last few shells (it was a box of 25) off my left shoulder, and that wasn't painful at all.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #14 on: April 03, 2017, 10:00:19 PM »
    Well great. You've got a medical condition for your excuse and now I'm the only wimpy one in this thread  ::). That's the last time I try to commiserate with you, Raptor  :neener.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #15 on: April 03, 2017, 10:11:47 PM »
    Hey, at least you lasted through ~150 rounds and bled. I actually quit shooting a Ruger LC9 after 12 or 18 rounds of ammo (2 or 3 mags, I don't remember exactly, it's been a few years) because it really hurt my hand. No medical condition there, and no blood either. I wimped out, pure and simple.
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    « Reply #16 on: April 03, 2017, 10:44:21 PM »
    Don't feel bad Raptor,
    On my last day of spring break, I decided to go to the range and shot about 3 boxes (give or take) out of my airweight 642 in one go and my stupid hand busted open  :panic. As I was cleaning it, I actually had some dried blood on the back strap of the gun  :shocked.

    It's a reminder than I need to shoot more often, so I can trade this pair of soft b____ hands for some man hands :hide .

    If I put a good few weeks in the lab I get soft hands. I think the gloves and washing makes them overly soft. They do not get that soft if I am just in the office typing for a few weeks.
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    « Reply #17 on: April 03, 2017, 10:56:59 PM »
    I'm not so sure about the hand washing. Between all the antimicrobial gel and hand washing, my hands sometimes more resemble beat up claws, than they do people hands. That being said, I'm sure that all the dryness my hands suffer also make them more prone to splitting open at stupid stuff.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #18 on: April 04, 2017, 03:15:49 AM »
    Well, I'm a dyed in the wool shotgun fan.  My current home defense gun is a side by side Savage/Stevens 311 cut down to coach gun specs. 

    The hammerless design is a little faster to operate and doesn't get snagged on stuff in the truck when it turns into a truck/camping gun.  It works fine in that role and the stock makes it capable at a bit longer range than the Shockwave design but I like the Shockwave for an inside the house gun.  The short length and two more shots without reloading make it something I would seriously consider buying.   :hmm
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    Re: Mossberg 590 Shockwave
    « Reply #19 on: April 04, 2017, 11:13:59 PM »
    I kinda want a shockwave 590 to convert into a SBS.
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