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930 slug changeover drill
« on: April 17, 2012, 04:00:26 PM »
Hey guys, does anyone have a good solution to performing a slug changeover drill with a 930 that won't result in a loss of 2 rds of buckshot.  So far, I have only come up with one method for this gun's particular manual of arms.  She is a different beast compared to a Benelli, remington, or any pump action.  I normally carry mine with a full mag tube and a ghost loaded round under the bolt and an empty chamber.  This is my "cruiser safe"  In order to get one slug into the gun, I have to operate the charging handle twice to clear the floating round and one out of the mag tube.  This lets me single load one into the tube and then I have to rack the charging handle again to put the slug into battery.  This seems to be the most efficient way for me to put a slug into battery.  Am I missing something obvious?  I am curious as to what you 930 owners do for this. 
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 09:09:24 PM »
I don't have the ghost round under the bolt. I just rotate it and download a OO round like you are doing an admin unload and replace it with a slug.

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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 11:24:25 PM »
Question about ghost loading, since I just got a 930 and haven't shot it yet.

So let's say there's one in the chamber, one on the lifter, and a full tube. I either clear or fire the first round, which ejects, and the floating round gets chambered. There is no longer, and will not be in the future, a shell floating on the lifter, correct? After the first two rounds, the gun operates normally with no ammo between the tube and the chamber?

If I have that right, I'd go with Coyote's idea.

What I've done in the past (on my 1100) is load the slug(s) into the tube, burn one into the berm, and carry on.

But that's competition.
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 03:10:38 PM »
Outbreak, you are correct in how the 930 handles a "floated" or "ghost loaded" round.  Now onto how coyote handles the changeover.  I have tried that out, and it seems a little more involved than the gross motor skills of operating the charging handle several times.  With my cruiser safe, I would have to rack the floated round into the chamber, flip it over and download by one 00B and then stuff a slug into the tube.  Then flip it back over and rack the handle again, putting it into battery.  Your method works, but for speed and ease of movements, it seems that the method I have come up with currently suits me better.  I need to play with this gun some more.  Thank you so much for the responses, very good food for thought.  The search continues.....
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 09:52:32 AM »
why not surf the ghost round out? (lock back the bolt with left hand, roll the gun sharply to the side to throw the other round out, drop in the slug and slap the bolt catch- boom.) if you keep your slugs on the right side of your belt a dump pouch or some shell loops you can shave a few seconds off of the change over too. however, you still lose those two rounds.
now- you could keep a dump-pouch next to your slug holder, and catch the ghost round as you surf it out, and drop it into the dump pouch before loading the slug. that way you only loose one.
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 06:57:16 PM »
Roper, I gave your method a try.  No dice.  No amount of surfing the gun around while holding the bolt to the rear will allow the ghost round to come out of the action.  It seems as if the lifter grabs/holds the round until the bolt pushes it into the chamber.  Maybe my gun is messed up.  I am familiar with this surfing method for the 500/590 series, but doesn't work with my 930.  Have you tried/experienced this or is it an idea?
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 07:40:45 PM »
I've noticed that the ghost round in mine is sort of stuck there. Not enough to keep it from feeding, but enough to keep it from popping out until the lifter pushes it up. I haven't really studied it yet.

ETA: after about 5 seconds of hasty thought, I think it's being held down by spring pressure from the bolt release button.
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 09:58:52 PM »
Roper, I gave your method a try.  No dice.  No amount of surfing the gun around while holding the bolt to the rear will allow the ghost round to come out of the action.  It seems as if the lifter grabs/holds the round until the bolt pushes it into the chamber.  Maybe my gun is messed up.  I am familiar with this surfing method for the 500/590 series, but doesn't work with my 930.  Have you tried/experienced this or is it an idea?
I rock a 500 with reasonable proficiency, but I've only lusted after the 930JM...
have you tried locking the bolt back? if it's being held down by spring pressure from the bolt release button, maybe locking it back will release the ghost round and let you surf it out?
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 10:26:15 AM »
I don't have one of these, but can't one just empty the chamber and then toss a slug into it?

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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 04:25:30 PM »
There is no ping pong paddle device or similar to lock the bolt to the rear like on an AR. She only locks back when it senses a lack of a round on the lifter, aka empty.  She is a rather complicated weapon.  George, do you have any advice?  I know you rock one of these.
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2012, 03:59:55 PM »
Please, let's talk about "shooting," "owning," or "enjoying" a shotgun. "Rocking" one sounds like it should be a gold-plated mossberg chainsaw being held by a pimp with goldfish in his shoes. I'm certain George doesn't do that.
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Re: 930 slug changeover drill
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 07:02:14 PM »
...aaaaaand, now I have an image of Shrek wearing that getup with a mossberg.

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