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The Marlin 1895 STP
« on: January 03, 2012, 09:44:48 PM »
I have gotten a few questions about this rifle since I signed on here.
Pointability, accuracy, recoil, velocity due to the short barrel, the sighting system, etc
Since I have been fondling it a bit lately, I figured what the hell... I would do a little more indepth post about it.
The STP was a limited production run, 501 rifles. They were distributed by Davidsons.
Marlin has made a few different 501 piece runs for them.
Basic specs.
Marlin 1895 in .45-70
Stainless steel with a laminate wood stock
Williams fiber optic Fire Sights.
16.25" barrel
5 round tubular magazine.
Deluxe recoil pad


The specs say what it is, but they dont tell the whole story.
It is a case of the the end product being more than the sum of the parts.
It is just an amazingly good feeling, fast handling, hard hitting "brush gun".
If you go to gunbroker and search completed auction you will see them selling for between $1000 and 1,375.
This is mine, fresh out of the box, just like the ad above.


And compared to the standard length 1895.


I bought mine used, for $1,000. It came with a Wild West Guns "Happy Trigger", reloading dies, 200 pieces of unfired Starline brass, 400+ projectiles, etc.
Here is my first time firing it. Yea, 3rd shot surprised me. Light trigger and I wasnt used to the lever yet.
Marlin 1895STP .45-70

Caryn liked it, so I got her an 1895 SBL.
The SBL is Marlins serious hunting lever action.
18.5" barrel
Stainless
Laminate stock
6 round magazine
Big loop lever, SBL... Stainless Big Loop, good for winter hunting in gloves.
XS Sights Lever Rail system. Ghost ring rear sight, white line front sight, picitinny rail for standard or scout scope mounting.
Delux recoil pad.

A very serious hunting rifle.
We took hers to the range and I fell in love with the sights.
OK, a step back... hers came without the rear sight, the ghost ring.
I called Marlin and told them I was missing the rear sight, they shipped a complete replacement lever rail system with sights.
I called them back, they said they didnt have individual components. Enjoy the complete set up.
The next time we were back in the store where we bought it, the handed over the rear sight that they had found in the back.
I had thought that I ordered the rear sight, but my memory cleared on this... and yea, the store found it.
ANYWAY
Caryn has small hands, and the big loop was a pain in the ass for her to use.
So, I swapped levers with her.


I was cooped up in a motel and decided to swap the Lever Rail on to my STP.
Now, for all intents and purposes, I have a mini SBL.
This is the motel as soon as the rail was on.


The ghost ring is not a precise sight, but it is fast for charging dangerous game.
For that, I love it.



However, I couldnt hit with it at a distance.
This was solved by replacing the standard rear sight with one that has a threaded aperture.
It is the same diameter as the regular ring, however you can thread in a Williams long shank rear peep.
I ordered up the rear sight and peep insert, it isnt a small peep but works well enough. I am ordering up a small peep for more precision use.



The sight is good enough to allow George and myself to hit the 400 yard bear target at his favorite range.

I personally feel that the 1895, in all of its incarnations.
1895CB, 26" octagon barrel with a 9 round magazine.
1895 XLR, 24" barrel with a 4 round magazine... however the long barrel and short mag looks strange to me.
1895, 22" barrel and 4 round magazine.
1895G and all of its variants... SBL, GLB, STBL, ABL, IOU, XYZ, BMF, KMA. OK, the last 4 were made up. 18.5" barrel and either a 4 or 6 round magazine. I believe the G is a 4 round, the rest are 6.
These are all in .45-70. That round deserves a thread all to itself.
You can also get the 1895 in .450 Marlin. The .450 is basically a shortened .458 Win Mag with a wider belt.
For a long time factory .45-70 was made at a low pressure, so you didnt blow up grandpas Trapdoor rifle.
People wanted a hot rod cartridge for their 1895, so Marlins solution was a proprietary cartridge that wouldnt chamber in the old rifles and blow up the shooter.
The .45-70 has had a resurgence in popularity and, in my experience, is a bit easier to find than .450 Marlin ammo.
You can also get "hot" .45-70 ammo now, which somewhat does away with the .450s reason for being around.
No matter what a person decides, a Marlin 1895 is a great rifle.
The cost of the ammunition is reason in itself to reload, however the various loads you can work up for it is a hobby in itself.
I do not claim to be an expert on this rifle, however I have thrown myself headlong into the info, facts, myths, and lore surrounding it.

My STP is without a doubt my favorite longarm that we own... bar none.
Questions, thoughts, info, flames... have at it.
Sorry for being a touch long winded.


Jim 
« Last Edit: January 03, 2012, 11:31:14 PM by Evil One »
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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 09:49:07 PM »
Of course you are Evil.  That's why you get the cute, lever action loving wife AND the sexiest dang rifle on the planet. 

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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 09:58:15 PM »
It is natural.
However I have noticed a Charisma boost and my accuracy has improved since shaving my head.
The Van Dyke doesnt hurt either.


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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 11:22:12 PM »
.45-70 Marlin

Hell of a good shooter!   Notice the visible fireball on the first shot.  That's got some THUMP!
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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 10:35:35 AM »

Hell of a good shooter!   Notice the visible fireball on the first shot.  That's got some THUMP!

That gun IS amazing. After shooting it, I knew I wanted an SBL. (the STP was just too expensive and rare to wait to find a second one)
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 11:16:55 AM »
where's the dang "like" button....
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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 11:36:18 AM »
Nice write-up. I have a Guide gun in stainless myself and love it. Going to take it piggy hunting in Texas soon  ;)


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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 11:40:52 AM »
where's the dang "like" button....

You spend to much time on Facebook.  ;)


Great write-up Jim.  Thanks for posting it.


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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 11:42:21 AM »
I wanna go piggy hunting  :'(


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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 11:58:03 AM »
First AWESOME write up.  Inspires so much envy.  Wish my 1895G was 5 shots instead of 4.  :facepalm

That rear sight - is the entire unit from Williams or is it the XS base & then the aperature & peep from Williams?
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 12:13:22 PM »
The peep is Williams,the rest is XS.
I had to order the threaded ghost ring separately from XS however.


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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 01:54:47 PM »
where's the dang "like" button....




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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 02:25:44 PM »
Can't believe that I wasn't subbed to your channel.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 04:57:56 PM »
Can't believe that I wasn't subbed to your channel.
I knew that SOMEONE would try and click on the like button... so I figured I would make it at least semi functional.  :rotfl


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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2012, 05:00:23 PM »
First AWESOME write up.  Inspires so much envy.  Wish my 1895G was 5 shots instead of 4.  :facepalm
Well... you know...
You can order the GBL tube and have a dovetail cut up front, fill your old dovetail... and you have it.


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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 05:05:20 PM »
Can't believe that I wasn't subbed to your channel.

more folks from here would be if you were listed at Evil One rather than Fomodo
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2012, 05:16:10 PM »
more folks from here would be if you were listed at Evil One rather than Fomodo
Evil One... and all variations thereof have been taken since the dawn of youtube I think...


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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 05:36:38 PM »
I knew that SOMEONE would try and click on the like button... so I figured I would make it at least semi functional.  :rotfl
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More like - hey!  Cursor changed to finger scrolling it on my touch pad!  CLICK IT! 

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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 06:18:30 PM »
Well... you know...
You can order the GBL tube and have a dovetail cut up front, fill your old dovetail... and you have it.


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Why the sight change because of the mag tube?  What am I missing here?
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2012, 06:29:57 PM »
Why the sight change because of the mag tube?


Eh?  No sight change.

The magazine tube is connected to the barrel via a dovetailed stud at the end of the tube.  For a longer magazine tube it obviously needs to be further down the barrel.






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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2012, 07:52:36 PM »
ah.  that makes sense.   :hmm

then HARM begins to wonder at the effectiveness of that kind of change up in cost/time rather than finding a different gun.   :banghead
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2012, 08:00:35 PM »
I think he was just saying it was possible.  Obviously it isn't cost effective, assuming you sell one rifle to buy another.

If you were just buying a second rifle because of the mag tube, an alteration would likely be more cost effective than buying another.


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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2012, 08:10:23 PM »
see me knowing this stuff is bad.  Now I'm thinking and my ADD is kicking up...  damnit. :banghead

My 1895G with the Ported 18" Barrel + 1895GBL. 

Remove Magazine tube - pair 6+1 tube to 1895G and 4+1 tube to GBL.

Chop GBL barrel to 16" and recrown.

G model with 6+1 gets XS sights threaded for Williams rear peep sight and the BGL with 4+1 gets the straight XS rear peep sight. 

remove rifle stock from G model and replace with stock and big look for pistol grip stock. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 10:52:44 PM »
I have seriously thought about buying a beater 1895 and making an SBR.
Tell me that this isnt sexy.



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Re: The Marlin 1895 STP
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 11:02:15 PM »
:drool
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