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PSL, Romak 3, etc
« on: March 12, 2010, 08:26:38 PM »
I've officially decided that my next gun purchase will be a Romanian PSL Dragunov knock-off. J&G has em for sale for about $600.  The ammo (for now) is dirt cheap.  I just paid $89 for 440 rounds of ammo.  I can have a lot of fun at the range for very little money and believe me, as a substitute teacher, I don't have a lot of money.  Also, I've always wanted one and this itch wont go away until I do get one.  There are more practical/better options, sure, but they are either A.) more expensive or B.) I don't want them nearly as much.
Does anyone have hands on experience with one of these?  I'm curious as to opinions.  Keep in mind that FUN+CHEAP is the equation I'm looking for.

Also, Aim has them for under $600.
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 10:22:50 PM »
  Be sure to let us know what you think  ;D   I'm curiously attracted to them myself.

   
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 11:10:29 PM »
I heard the quality can vary quite a bit, but that is typical with Romanian guns.  I know a guy that has one and he had to tweak it a bit before it worked properly. 
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 12:07:46 AM »
Yeah, and I know guys that have them and they run perfectly from the get go... So yeah... it can either work or it needs a little tweaking... either way... it's a good buy I think.
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 12:34:32 AM »
Yeah hard to go wrong for $600.   The guy I know says he has another friend that has one that works great.   I guess it all depends on how drunk the Romanians were on the day it was assembled.
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 02:21:53 PM »
Ive just been reading up on it and yeah, looks like the quality varies quite a bit.  I've also been looking up the differences between this and an actual Dragunov.  Interesting stuff.  I literally can't wait to get this.  It's going to be fun!  Believe me, there will be picks and reports as soon as it happens. :sniperblue :guitar
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 02:44:14 PM »


Just wanted to post this for no other reason than the hot Romanian woman in the back.  Oh, and they have a PSL.
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 02:49:59 PM »
Make sure you use the light ball ammo too.  You don't want the heavy stuff in these. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 02:57:52 PM »
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Is it just me, or does it look like somebody is about to have a nice example of scope-eye?

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 03:03:22 PM »
Those scopes usually have a rubber cover at the back end.  He's probably fine.   
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 03:21:39 PM »
There's a rifle?

And guys in that picture?
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 03:23:24 PM »
There's a rifle?

And guys in that picture?

You have to look closely.  It's not obvious at first.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 04:11:10 PM »
As requested by Khorne, I stopped by J&G and examined their PSL offerings. They're currently sold out of the Romanian PSLs that were priced $599.95 and only had the PSLs assembled by Century from Romanian parts, priced at $629.95 - so that's what I looked at.

The action felt a little gritty (typical of dry parkerized surfaces rubbing together), but there was no binding or anything. The machining was smooth and without visible toolmarks. Wood was typical Romanian plywood with a heavy varnish. There were a few handling marks on the gas tube and scope rail, not sure if this was from the factory, shipping, or being the floor model at J&G.

All in all it was about what you'd expect to see on a Romanian Kalashnikov. I couldn't say how well it would shoot from my examination, but I didn't see anything to give me any reservations.

I'll look forward to hearing a range report from Khorne, as well as a report on how it feels before and after a bit of Slipstream.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 04:52:16 PM »
OH, rest assured that it shall receive the full SlipStream treatment.  $629, eh?  Hmmm....I know AIM and Century has em, at least last time I checked they did.  So, these other ones are assembled from Romanian parts?  Is that gooder or worser than a straight up imported one?
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 05:10:56 PM »
I honestly don't know if it's gooder or worser.  :-\

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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 05:17:18 PM »
Hmm...maybe there really isn't a difference?  But why the slightly higher price?  Oh well, I got TWO weeks more to figure it out.  Thanks for checking though!  Appreciate it!
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Re: PSL, Romak 3, etc
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 06:23:11 PM »
I just checked, the spam can of ammo I ordered was light ball.  So, don't shoot the heavy stuff.  Got it.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 06:25:15 PM »
I just checked, the spam can of ammo I ordered was light ball.  So, don't shoot the heavy stuff.  Got it.

Bulgarian surplus? Did you order a can opener too?
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 07:51:58 PM »
A friend of mine has one.  He said when he first got it, he had to grind a bit off the scope mount, because he had maxed out his windage and was still off paper, but his PSL/PSOP setup has been flawless as long as I've known him, and with the right ammo hangs just fine with my M1A (although it is about 3.5 feet longer than my M1A).

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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2010, 12:03:50 PM »
Bulgarian surplus? Did you order a can opener too?

Oh oh, order a can opener??  Oh dear.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2010, 12:04:24 PM »
It might come with one.  If not, you can probably get into the can with a dremel if you are careful.
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2010, 12:05:20 PM »
Okay, just in case its necessary, how does one go about opening one of these if one doesn't have said can opener? :hmm
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2010, 12:35:52 PM »
Cut around the edge very carefully with a dremel cutoff wheel.  Or you can punch holes in it with a hammer and chisel or screwdriver and peel it back.  That takes quite a bit longer though.   
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2010, 11:30:57 AM »
My spam cans have always had an opener built in.
The ammo is corrosive too.  Do you clean the gas system out after each use or what?

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2010, 12:03:40 PM »
The last spam can I got did not have an opener built in. Fortunately I bought a wood crate for a couple bucks that included a can opener screwed to the lid.

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I'd definitely recommend cleaning the gas system after use. The simplest thing to do is boil a kettle of water when you get home and pour it over everything that might have corrosive residue on it. The corrosive salts dissolve easily in the hot water.
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