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So we have some good threads about the SR-25.  My favorite was the personal review done by LL's brother in the Corps.  And I do recall the thread in which the new LMT .308 was talked about.  Just yesterday I learned of the existence of the REPR.  (For whatever reason I kept mixing up LMT and LWRC in my head until I realized they were two separate companies).

I'm just wandering if these similar rifles have been put head to head against each other. Have they?  And if they haven't which one would be the best contender?
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 11:57:40 PM »
The SR-25 is the only one that's been around long enough to have a real operational history, and its reviews have been mixed, depending on what you read and where you read it.  I've only talked to a couple of guys that used them for reals.  Was told that when they work, they work great, but tend to be ammo sensitive and such (which, really, is no surprise, MOA accuracy comes at a price, especially in an autoloader).  That's all the info I can give you.

I'm going to warn you, though.  I've been on internet gun boards since I first joined The Firing Line back in 2000.  That's a solid decade of gun board participation on my part.  Never once has a "which gun is better?" thread every produced anything resembling a solid conclusion.  You'll get a few strong opinions here or there, and may actually learn something about the merits and weaknesses of the guns involved, but don't expect anything decisive.

Besides, hanging out in our Tactical Tree House is no fun if we don't have anything to pointlessly bicker about discuss.  ;D
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 12:57:29 AM »
Well, I can see your point about reaching a solid conclusion.  But in all honesty my knowledge of these weapon platforms is marginal so I do want to learn overall.
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 01:38:32 AM »
Title probably ought to be renamed the Manhattan Standoff - only those that live in Manhattan can afford them. ;D

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2010, 01:19:53 PM »
Title probably ought to be renamed the Manhattan Standoff - only those that live in Manhattan can afford them. ;D

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They may be able to afford them but I'm pretty sure they can't own them  :coffee

FMJ, really, I don't think many, if not any, has had enough experience on all three to give any sound argument.

I would stick with the KAC if issued, and I would/want to buy a DPMS, other than that. I'm done in this thread.  ::)

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 07:32:13 PM »
I heard that the L129A1 uses KAC style mags (which was one of the reasons I speculated that KAC style mags would become the standard for AR-10s).
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 11:22:52 PM »
Over priced.
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 11:59:44 PM »
If it was issued to me, I'd hope for the KAC.  But that's one thing.

At the price they ask, I don't think I'd want to spend my own money on any of them.  The KAC is sweet to be sure.  But I think "bang-for-your-buck" easily goes to DPMS.  For the rifle price ($1k) and some money spent on gunsmith work you can have a rifle that just as good and WAY under the asking price of the rifles in the thread title.

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2010, 03:30:17 PM »
It very well may be the most awesome weapon ever designed... but we'll probably never know, because at $5,000 a pop, not enough of us are ever going to buy one to find out.


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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2010, 09:35:04 PM »
http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/AR_10-c1246-wp3393.htm#AR-10

Probably the most important factor in the accuracy of a rifle is the barrel.  I'm old fashioned and prefer the hook rifled barrel even though it will cost you more.  $640 to $850 to purchase one and get the chamber machined to fit to your AR bolt by someone who knows what he is doing.

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2010, 09:51:56 PM »
I will buy either an LMT or LaRue OBR, but I'd not hesitate to drop the cash on an SR-25. Figure more on top of that for suppressor and night vision optic...

I don't think I'm buying one in the near future, though. I just don't live in an area where .308 would be "worth it" for the range. 5.56 covers the ranges around here just fine.

I don't THINK I'll ever have to face down routers in the streets.

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 10:44:58 AM »
I heard that the L129A1 uses KAC style mags (which was one of the reasons I speculated that KAC style mags would become the standard for AR-10s).


All three of the rifles listed use KAC style mags.

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Just yesterday I learned of the existence of the REPR.


But you posted here last month:
http://wethearmed.com/index.php/topic,8773.0.html

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 11:06:07 AM »
  SR25, hands down.  The LMT is not proven though it has been selected by the MOD (UK Ministry of Defense) and the LWRC REPR is an expensive piston (pistons fix everything on an AR, right?!)  gun that does not have any operational history. 

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2010, 11:20:26 AM »
M21?   :hide
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2010, 11:25:17 AM »
M21?   :hide

  Not a fair contest.  The AR based guns are inherently more mechanically accurate than the M14 based guns.  The ARs are more accurate out of the box.  Witness the day when the AMU (Army Marksmanship Unit) showed up at the national matches and spanked the Marine's M14s.  From that day on, M16s have ruled the Camp Perry matches.  Not to mention ergonomics, bedding, scope mounts, disassembly when dealing with a scope mount, etc.....

  The M21 is an interesting, expensive, fragile, maintenance intensive history piece based on the shortest lived service rifle in US history.

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2010, 09:36:06 PM »
If someone  offered me the choice of a Fulton Armory M-14 in a SAGE stock or an SR-25 I'd have to sit down and think about it.

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2010, 11:01:31 PM »
If someone  offered me the choice of a Fulton Armory M-14 in a SAGE stock or an SR-25 I'd have to sit down and think about it.
I'd take the most expensive one and sell it for a different gun and lots of ammo and mags.
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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2010, 11:40:46 PM »
If someone  offered me the choice of a Fulton Armory M-14 in a SAGE stock or an SR-25 I'd have to sit down and think about it.

I'd take the SR-25 without a doubt, but that's just me.  If I wanted ultra precision, then I'd get a bolt gun.

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But you posted here last month
Ok, it sounds a little weird and I do remember the thread, but the REPR went over my head at the time.  I had also been confusing LMT and LWRC together.  It actually wasn't until last week that I realized that they BOTH made 7.62 rifles.  But now I am all clear.

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Re: Mexican Standoff: LMT (L129A1) vs. LWRC REPR vs. KAC SR-25
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2010, 11:44:52 PM »
If someone  offered me the choice of a Fulton Armory M-14 in a SAGE stock or an SR-25 I'd have to sit down and think about it.

I'd take the SR-25 any day of the week...

and I'd keep it and not sell it.

I don't THINK I'll ever have to face down routers in the streets.

I should hope not. Mobs of rogue woodworking tools would suck to repel.


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