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Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
« Reply #225 on: September 27, 2015, 08:54:36 am »
Not one of mine, but it sure looks nice.




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    Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
    « Reply #226 on: October 20, 2015, 11:33:31 am »

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    « Reply #227 on: October 20, 2015, 12:48:22 pm »
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    « Reply #228 on: November 06, 2015, 10:17:54 pm »

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    « Reply #229 on: November 06, 2015, 10:26:22 pm »
    Ahh yes, a little something for everyone.   :cool
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    Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
    « Reply #230 on: November 07, 2015, 10:48:29 am »
    Not one of mine, but it sure looks nice.




    Oh I like that one.  Not just the photography of it, but the more simplistic approach the owner took to enhancements. 
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    Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
    « Reply #231 on: December 06, 2015, 09:36:40 am »
    HERA SFU


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    « Reply #232 on: March 06, 2016, 09:52:46 am »

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    « Reply #233 on: May 28, 2016, 01:48:48 pm »
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    Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
    « Reply #234 on: July 31, 2016, 09:01:52 am »
    I'm just waiting for the Mossberg butt stock adapter (MBSA) to start shipping.


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    « Reply #235 on: September 14, 2016, 08:09:57 am »
    New MBSA installed on BF-RS

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    « Reply #236 on: September 15, 2016, 02:09:12 am »
    Nice.   :cool
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    « Reply #237 on: September 15, 2016, 08:35:52 am »
    Yes.  Very nice indeed.
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    « Reply #238 on: September 15, 2016, 08:40:34 am »
    Of all of the Battle Rifle options out there: HK/PTR, AR-10s of all manufacturers, FAL, SCAR, RFB, etc. - the only one that gives me any desire to own is the M1A.

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    « Reply #239 on: September 15, 2016, 04:20:20 pm »
    Of all of the Battle Rifle options out there: HK/PTR, AR-10s of all manufacturers, FAL, SCAR, RFB, etc. - the only one that gives me any desire to own is the M1A.

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    « Reply #240 on: September 25, 2016, 02:38:39 pm »
      Well just was sighting in my M14S today and figured I'd check out "the same ol' problem".

      My M14S LOVES....168 HP ammo.  From a good rest it'll put the American Eagle M1A ammo into 1" groups at 100 yards and 168 Federal Gold Medal Match into .75".

      But it HATES......147/150 grain ball ammo.   I've tried XM80, DAG, South African, no change, all grouped 8-10".   Well today I figured I'd try out ZQI just for the heckuvit, don't have anything to lose.    Did the same, maybe a shade worse.

       Just boggles my mind.   It's well headspaced, has a NOS USGI bolt that was installed by Tim at Warbirdscustomguns.   It was WAY out of headspace before the new bolt was installed, swallowed a 7.62 Nato nogo gauge.     

       I just thought y'all may be interested.   Like I said, even with a warm barrel, after 15-20 shots she still groups very well, but cold/whatever will NOT shoot 150 grain ammo.

      Below group was prone @100 yards unsupported, however it was not me, the green group is 168 American Eagle and the red is 147 ZQI.   The one far-right green was a called pull-off by me.

    Edit P.S.  Took off my Bushnell Elite fixed 10X scope and replaced it with a 3-9X Burris compact. Only 10" long and sure lightens up and trims up the gun.
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    « Reply #241 on: September 25, 2016, 03:39:02 pm »
    Your China girl has expensive taste, feed her well.

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    « Reply #242 on: September 25, 2016, 04:48:07 pm »
    Your China girl has expensive taste, feed her well.
    Eh, Grant has a history of attracting high maintenance and difficult ladies.  He should do fine. ;)

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    « Reply #243 on: September 25, 2016, 06:36:46 pm »
    Eh, Grant has a history of attracting high maintenance and difficult ladies.  He should do fine. ;)

    Smartass  :neener

      I'm just curious as to why.  I can see it shooting some worse, or even a LOT worse.  But barely keeping them on a box?  that's almost unbelievable to me. 
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    « Reply #244 on: September 26, 2016, 02:05:51 am »
    Smartass  :neener

      I'm just curious as to why.  I can see it shooting some worse, or even a LOT worse.  But barely keeping them on a box?  that's almost unbelievable to me. 

    I'm just guessing here, but if it likes 168s but doesn't 147/150s, I'd say your twist rate is too fast for the lighter bullets.  I think.  I may be backwards on that.  My .30-06 has a 1 in 12 twist, and will put 3 150s under a quarter at 100 yards and 3 165s under a nickel.  180s?  2" is the best I could get.
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    « Reply #245 on: September 26, 2016, 08:20:12 am »
    Rate of twist:
     
    Standard M14 1:12
    Standard M1A 1:11

    My SEI builds have 1:10 barrels that shoot 147 gr Port surplus into tiny little groups.

    This one has a chrome lined Winchester barrel with a 1:12 ROT.
    I'm waiting for a Blackfeather op rod guide to arrive so I can finish the installation and see how it shoots.


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    « Reply #246 on: September 26, 2016, 08:23:16 am »
      The twist rate on the M14S is supposed to be 1:12 like the original M14.     :shrug  168 should be the upper edge of what it shoots well.

       I'm not real worried, I wanted an accurate tackdriver, something not every M1A/M14 is so as long as it shoots super well with the good ammo I'll stock up on a bunch of 168 ammo for a TON of brass then stockpile 168 bullets.
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    « Reply #247 on: September 26, 2016, 11:00:13 am »
    Have you tried any 180 gr bullets through it? If it likes heavier bullet weights they might be an option.  But you do lose some range, as the ones I have used do not have great shape like 168gr.
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    « Reply #248 on: September 27, 2016, 06:37:56 pm »

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    « Reply #249 on: September 27, 2016, 07:41:43 pm »
    Okay - That is a GREAT photo.
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