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Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2011, 04:09:38 pm »
Joe, nice read!  I am a bit surprised that you didn't mention about greasing the bolt roller bearing.  There is a small special tool that helps to force the grease into the bearing as opposed to just applying it to the exterior.  It is very important that the bearing is PROPERLY lubed otherwise it will actually hurt the performance more than helping it.  An improperly or ungreased bearing can and will rust internally and can seize up.  I love me a good M1A but caution must be observed when shooting match ammo or reloaded ammo with benchrest primers as the (heavy) floating firing pin is notorious for causing slam-fires.

If you don't want to buy the special tool to grease the roller (or if you lose it) you can create your own easily enough. I used a 40 S&W case expanded somewhat with my 45 expander to slip tightly over the roller, packed the case with grease, and it worked great. Other pistol brass is probably better suited to this; a 41 or 44 case may work as is, but I'm not at home to check so I'm not sure.
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    « Reply #51 on: September 29, 2011, 09:42:41 am »
    Are m1a's downgrade m14's, or are they civilian makes?

    Most M14s that are currently in service are altered to fire semi-auto only.

    As mentioned, Springfield Armory, Inc. M1As use a cast receiver, but the newer ones also use cast parts.

    Using cast parts on a USGI M14 would downgrade the M14.

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    « Reply #52 on: November 11, 2011, 01:18:42 pm »
    I've heard from many sources that the Springfield M1A's cast receiver is slightly out of spec when it comes to installing a GI or GI spec scope mount.  If you want a great FORGED receiver that is completely spec then find a Polytech.  They were extremely popular for custom builds solely for the receiver and at one time the complete rifle was the same price or even cheaper than an aftermarket US made forged receiver.  Some say that the bolts weren't properly heat treated but others have thousands of rounds through their Polys with no headspace issues.

    As mentioned, Springfield Armory, Inc. M1As use a cast receiver, but the newer ones also use cast parts.

    Using cast parts on a USGI M14 would downgrade the M14.
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    « Reply #53 on: November 14, 2011, 07:03:24 am »
    Yes, yes and yes.


    I've heard from many sources that the Springfield M1A's cast receiver is slightly out of spec when it comes to installing a GI or GI spec scope mount.  If you want a great FORGED receiver that is completely spec then find a Polytech.  They were extremely popular for custom builds solely for the receiver and at one time the complete rifle was the same price or even cheaper than an aftermarket US made forged receiver.  Some say that the bolts weren't properly heat treated but others have thousands of rounds through their Polys with no headspace issues.


    All of my M14s are custom built on forged Norinco and Poly Tech receivers... I even use Norinco and Poly Tech trigger groups that have SEI's MAX-PAK.

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    « Reply #54 on: November 14, 2011, 12:45:29 pm »
    I was gonna start another post but I think this may be the best place...

    Has anyone seen a custom M1A with a Picatinny rail atop of the receiver instead of Irons?

    I knew I saw one once, but for the life of me I haven't been able to get a hold of the company again, those where the same that where offering custom M1As in .243 Win.

    Any luck?

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    « Reply #55 on: November 14, 2011, 02:41:48 pm »
    White Feather?

    LRB and NSWC CRANE have their versions of this.

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    « Reply #56 on: November 28, 2011, 01:48:11 pm »
    Hm, no I don't think so, the one I saw completely removed the rear sight housing and instead there was a milled rail built into the receiver.

    Or maybe I'm hallucinating.

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    « Reply #57 on: December 09, 2011, 03:49:33 am »
    For the EBR owner


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    « Reply #58 on: December 09, 2011, 04:13:54 pm »
    ...and where & how much can one get one of those tools for?
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    « Reply #59 on: December 09, 2011, 05:20:18 pm »
    ...and where & how much can one get one of those tools for?

    $195
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    « Reply #60 on: December 09, 2011, 10:47:40 pm »
    ...that's a little too rich for for me for what it is.
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    « Reply #61 on: December 15, 2011, 11:13:39 am »
    Can they be found for less?


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    « Reply #63 on: December 15, 2011, 08:33:36 pm »
    Is there a polymer mag on the level of a MagPul P-Mag, for the M1A?
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    « Reply #64 on: December 17, 2011, 07:37:59 am »
    None that I know of.

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    « Reply #65 on: December 24, 2011, 08:19:25 am »
    Frank sent me one of his new generation, 4 point M14/M1A scope mounts, the CASM®.
    It arrived yesterday and I can't wait to install it on my MK14 Mod 0!

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     my EBR rings, the optic will ride in low wire EDM rings from SEI.

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    « Reply #66 on: December 30, 2011, 03:07:38 am »
    Is there a polymer mag on the level of a MagPul P-Mag, for the M1A?

    There isn't.
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    « Reply #67 on: February 09, 2012, 05:47:49 am »
    The price is now just $148.00






    BTW, I've finished my USN MK14 Mod 0 type SEI.

    I know it's not for everyone, but I'm real happy with how it turned out.




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    « Reply #68 on: February 09, 2012, 11:23:31 am »
    That is one solid looking rifle.   :cool
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    « Reply #69 on: February 09, 2012, 07:55:00 pm »
    So... I kinda bid on one on Gunbroker. It's a low bid and I probably won't win but now I've convinced myself I can't live without one.  So one way or another I'm gonna have one sooner rather than later.
    I'm not saying you should use an M1A for home defense, but I'm also not saying you shouldn't.

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    Re: M14 - M1A Rifles
    « Reply #70 on: February 09, 2012, 10:50:07 pm »
    Zero, I happen to have a spare Springfield Scout if you are interested...
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    « Reply #71 on: February 09, 2012, 11:20:18 pm »
    Uh.....well, seeing as I just got outbid.... PM on the way.
    I'm not saying you should use an M1A for home defense, but I'm also not saying you shouldn't.

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    « Reply #72 on: February 10, 2012, 08:33:17 am »
    So... I kinda bid on one on Gunbroker.
    It's a low bid and I probably won't win but now I've convinced myself I can't live without one. 
    So one way or another I'm gonna have one sooner rather than later.

    Did you bid on this one?

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    « Reply #73 on: February 10, 2012, 01:56:17 pm »
    Nope, not that one. Wait, I just put two and two together...that's yours? Nice, but out of my budget.

    Hey, Powerball's $310,000,000 tomorrow so you might be hearing from me after all.
    I'm not saying you should use an M1A for home defense, but I'm also not saying you shouldn't.

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    « Reply #74 on: April 10, 2012, 08:56:36 am »
    That is one solid looking rifle.   :cool

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