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Title: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 24, 2009, 08:41:09 pm
Here's a link to an article I wrote on the basics of an M1 trigger job.
http://gundoctor.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/m1-trigger-jobs/ (http://gundoctor.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/m1-trigger-jobs/)

Enjoy and comments please.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Mumbles on August 24, 2009, 08:56:19 pm
When you posted that on your blog, I meant to ask if that applied to M-14/M1As too, but I forgot.  Judging by the thread title, I'm guessing it does.  Just want to clarify before I do something I regret.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: GeorgeHill on August 24, 2009, 09:05:28 pm
Do NOT make me want an M1A.
 :bash
Suck... too late.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 24, 2009, 09:15:01 pm
When you posted that on your blog, I meant to ask if that applied to M-14/M1As too, but I forgot.  Judging by the thread title, I'm guessing it does.  Just want to clarify before I do something I regret.

Yeah it still works. The only real difference between the M1 and M14 triggers is the fact that the M14 is shorter. The basics are all still the same.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 24, 2009, 09:17:59 pm
Do NOT make me want an M1A.
 :bash
Suck... too late.

I'm kind of jonesing on the SOCOM version. Being that short it will probably beat the op rod up pretty badly. That's what happened to the M1 tanker model. Doesn't take long before you have to fit a new one. Oh, well they still look cool.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: only1asterisk on August 24, 2009, 09:24:12 pm
I'm kind of jonesing on the SOCOM version. Being that short it will probably beat the op rod up pretty badly. That's what happened to the M1 tanker model. Doesn't take long before you have to fit a new one. Oh, well they still look cool.

They do look cool.  If somebody were to make it reliable and durable somehow...
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 24, 2009, 10:06:39 pm
They do look cool.  If somebody were to make it reliable and durable somehow...

If you don't do it right the 16" or 18" barrel can be a problem.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: only1asterisk on August 24, 2009, 10:11:25 pm
If you don't do it right the 16" or 18" barrel can be a problem.

Too much risk for too little benefit.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 24, 2009, 10:13:53 pm
Too much risk for too little benefit.

I agree but what a cool gun. I'll still stick to a full length at the end of the day. The gun as a whole is just too awesome not to have one...or 5.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: GeorgeHill on August 24, 2009, 10:39:12 pm
It's taken about 40 years of development and tweaking to get the AR to run right.  Let's just buckle up and see if we can get a short M1A to run.
I've only personally seen issues with the magazines in the M1A SOCOMs.  And I've had several through my Carbine Courses.   I think they are awesome.  But one thing they are not, precision rifles.  If you can live with a 3" group at 100 yards, you can live with a SOCOM.
I just want it more consistent... make it a 1" group and I'm in.  Unfortunately, I've not seen one do a 1" group.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: only1asterisk on August 24, 2009, 10:42:55 pm
It's taken about 40 years of development and tweaking to get the AR to run right.  Let's just buckle up and see if we can get a short M1A to run.
I've only personally seen issues with the magazines in the M1A SOCOMs.  And I've had several through my Carbine Courses.   I think they are awesome.  But one thing they are not, precision rifles.  If you can live with a 3" group at 100 yards, you can live with a SOCOM.
I just want it more consistent... make it a 1" group and I'm in.  Unfortunately, I've not seen one do a 1" group.

My concern is more premature wear and increased failure rate vs. consistent operation.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 24, 2009, 10:51:16 pm
It's taken about 40 years of development and tweaking to get the AR to run right.  Let's just buckle up and see if we can get a short M1A to run.
I've only personally seen issues with the magazines in the M1A SOCOMs.  And I've had several through my Carbine Courses.   I think they are awesome.  But one thing they are not, precision rifles.  If you can live with a 3" group at 100 yards, you can live with a SOCOM.
I just want it more consistent... make it a 1" group and I'm in.  Unfortunately, I've not seen one do a 1" group.

I'm on board with that. One question though. How many projects can we get going at one time?  :devillol I actually have a couple ways to go about that one. Then we work on a bedding block and float the barrel. The biggest problem the SOCOM has is the recoil is more violent than usual because of the shorter barrel. Shorten the gas system and op rod and you get a softer muzzle flip.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: mnw42 on August 27, 2009, 11:53:47 pm
If you want a shorter M1A then the Scout is where it's at.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 28, 2009, 01:16:56 am
If you want a shorter M1A then the Scout is where it's at.

Yeah, I still think they're pretty sweet.
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Harm on August 28, 2009, 01:59:48 am
Very cool guns.  Sexy guns actually. 

Scared of feeding them...   :doh
Title: Re: M1, M14 Trigger Jobs
Post by: Gundoc on August 28, 2009, 08:07:24 pm
 

Scared of feeding them...   :doh

yeah...