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M1 Garand from CMP
« on: September 19, 2016, 09:10:36 PM »
I wasn't one of the lucky ones selected for the recent M1 carbine sweepstakes at CMP last winter so I finally decided on a Garand for my first purchase from CMP.

Ordered a service grade on Saturday September 10 and received it at the house on September 16 which I think is just phenomenal. Received a Springfield Armory build from May 1945, rebuilt in October 1948 and it had a brand new CMP stock. I am just ecstatic with it. Cost for the rifle, CMP case and (free) shipping was $730.00. I also ordered 400 rounds of Greek surplus .30-06 for $272.00 and free shipping plus 50 en bloc clips for  $46 including shipping (not free).






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    Re: M1 Garand from CMP
    « Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 09:53:38 PM »
    6 days from the CMP has got to be a record!  But that looks like a sweet Garand.  Got to let us know how it shoots.
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    Re: M1 Garand from CMP
    « Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 10:43:49 PM »
       They've been catching up because they closed down applications for awhile and supposedly had a blank slate to start with.  Mine only took a couple weeks last spring.

      AWESOME bud!  After many years of deliberating, me, dad and a friend took the plunge last spring and did it.      Can't believe I waited that long, wasn't as hard as people said, and have an amazing piece of military history. 
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    « Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 11:14:42 PM »
    Looks a lot like the one I bought at the store earlier this month.  Some people don't like the new CMP stocks for collectability reasons, but I was happy to find one that was almost as good as a special grade for less money.
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    Re: M1 Garand from CMP
    « Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 07:39:40 PM »
    Saw they put out a release today limiting the number of purchases per year to 8 per person.    I think that is long overdue and they probably should consider lowering that number further,  maybe to 4 or 5.   Way too many dealers were going and buying their 10 and also having every member of their immediate family buy their 10  so they could mark them up and flip them at gun shows.  Even though that is against the CMP rules,  abuse was rampant. 

    I also saw that they were moving the location of the South Store to the new shooting facility they just built.  I'm wondering if that had something to do with the sparse inventory I saw 3 weeks ago.
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    Re: M1 Garand from CMP
    « Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 07:47:54 PM »
    Now THAT is a RIFLE!   Be sure to keep us in the loop as to how it does at the range. 

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    « Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 08:43:56 PM »
    Now THAT is a RIFLE!   Be sure to keep us in the loop as to how it does at the range. 

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    « Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 09:05:33 PM »
    After many years of deliberating, me, dad and a friend took the plunge last spring and did it.      Can't believe I waited that long, wasn't as hard as people said, and have an amazing piece of military history. 
    I know I am going to regret this down the road, but I don't want to own a Garand.  They are our history, but they just don't speak to me.  I know I will end up wanting one eventually, but probably only once they are no longer available for less than a grand...  In much the same way that I caught the Mauser bug about three years too late.
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    « Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 10:59:52 PM »
    I know I am going to regret this down the road, but I don't want to own a Garand.  They are our history, but they just don't speak to me.  I know I will end up wanting one eventually, but probably only once they are no longer available for less than a grand...  In much the same way that I caught the Mauser bug about three years too late.

    Question: have you ever actually got to hold one?  shoot one?   I wasn't a huge Garand person, but got one because they are a important piece of history that would someday be gone.     However OWNING a Garand.......turned me into a hardcore Garand fan.   They aren't a piece of history, they ARE and represent everything about America and what it is and was and should be....

    Okay...maybe I'm a bit weird but they simply are that way  :cool
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    « Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 11:56:05 PM »
    Oh that's as sexy as Bomber Nose Art.
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    « Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 08:35:09 AM »
    Question: have you ever actually got to hold one?  shoot one?   
    No.  No real desire to, either.  I know, Gen. Patton thought they were the best thing ever...  But that was then, this is now.  If someone handed ol' George a Kalashnikov, I would bet he would change his opinion on the spot.


    They aren't a piece of history, they ARE and represent everything about America and what it is and was and should be....
    If you say.  I admire the Mauser platform as an example of engineering genius.  The success of the Garand...  Is more a testimony to the might of the logistical juggernaut of 1940s America.
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    Re: M1 Garand from CMP
    « Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 08:47:14 AM »
    The M1 is a fine gun that could have been better.  Really, there was no reason it shouldn't have had a detachable magazine when it was released in the 1930's similar to the BM-59 or M-14.  I still enjoy all of mine though and think you should get at least one while you still can.
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    « Reply #12 on: September 21, 2016, 08:56:08 AM »
    That is beautiful.  I've always wanted one but I think it's one that I'll get down the road.  Right now most of my money is going into reloading and building competency with the guns I currently have.  But I wouldn't mind owning that gun.
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    « Reply #13 on: September 21, 2016, 09:25:53 AM »
    I'm saving my pennies for a beater Garand that I can, in good conscience, send off to be tankerized and converted to .308.  This is dangerously close to my "go-for-it" price.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 10:39:34 AM »
    They are fun to shoot. And used to be cheap to shoot- seems like yesterday CMP spam cans of clean hot HXP were $55 each :(  And pretty accurate shooters too. A decent one will  put all 8 rounds in a 2 1/2" circle @ 100yds. I have heard rumors of MOA Garands but never shot one. They are confidence inspiring. Mine has never failed to work, through at least a thousand rounds.

     Tip #1  a full spring kit is available at a reasonable cost at Orion 7. 

     Tip #2  dramatic improvements in accuracy can be had with minor tweaks and stock fitting. Lots of info on these procedures out there.   I took a worn field grade that was shooting a 5" high by 12" wide group and brought it to a nice round 4" by simple non-gunsmith stock fitting. The better the rifle shoots, of course, the less noticeable the improvements will be.

     One of the coolest photo's I have seen with a Garand was some guy in loincloth in east Africa, sitting on a hill overlooking a river, with an old Garand. He was watching over his livestock. Always wondered where that rifle came from, and if he could find ammo for it. 
    Another one was a Korean Marine crouched behind a gravestone in Vietnam holding his M-1.

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    « Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 10:43:15 AM »
    The M1 is a fine gun that could have been better.  Really, there was no reason it shouldn't have had a detachable magazine when it was released in the 1930's similar to the BM-59 or M-14. 
    Exactly my point.  To me, the M1 is nothing special, and ranks slightly above a Mosin at the bottom of the list of surplus guns that I would like to have.

    I still enjoy all of mine though and think you should get at least one while you still can.
    That's the thing.  I am sure I will want one once they are all gone...  But I can't justify a purchase for 'I might want one someday.'
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    « Reply #16 on: September 21, 2016, 10:45:03 AM »
    One of the coolest photo's I have seen with a Garand was some guy in loincloth in east Africa, sitting on a hill overlooking a river, with an old Garand. He was watching over his livestock. Always wondered where that rifle came from, and if he could find ammo for it. 
    I imagine he had at least a few rounds in it, or else there would be no reason to hold it.  'Practice ammo' was probably non-existent, if that's what you meant.

    If you have that picture, I would love to see it. 
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    « Reply #17 on: September 21, 2016, 12:45:10 PM »
    Exactly my point.  To me, the M1 is nothing special, and ranks slightly above a Mosin at the bottom of the list of surplus guns that I would like to have.
    That's the thing.  I am sure I will want one once they are all gone...  But I can't justify a purchase for 'I might want one someday.'

    If you're on the fence even remotely? get one.  I garuntee owning one will cement it with you (though you are a strange one  :neener). If not.......sell it for a $50 profit and get someone a good deal.
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    « Reply #18 on: September 21, 2016, 01:06:17 PM »
    If you're on the fence even remotely? 
    No, I am not.  I just know how these things work, and as soon as it is too late, I will want one.
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    « Reply #19 on: September 21, 2016, 02:28:57 PM »
    No.  No real desire to, either.  I know, Gen. Patton thought they were the best thing ever...  But that was then, this is now.  If someone handed ol' George a Kalashnikov, I would bet he would change his opinion on the spot.

    I don't know about that.  George Patton was very Old School... In his mind, he lived in the past.  And, at the time he said that, the Germans didn't have any semi-auto rifles fielded.  That came later in the war.  This was earlier, North Africa conflict.  So the whole Assault Rifle concept hadn't yet been proven.  I kinda think Patton would have turned his nose up on the AK.
    Unless it was from like Rifle Dynamics.   ;)
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    « Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 02:53:05 PM »
    Think about why he held the Garand in esteem...  Not because of ergonomics.  Not because of national pride.  Not even because it was engineered well.  He esteemed it because of its Firepower.  The Garand could spit out more lead, faster, than any other service rifle at the time, and could do it with reliability.  I am sure his praise was not directed at the en bloc clip...

    An AK would have offered a level of firepower that the other nations could only dream of.  The size, weight and controllability of era SMGs, and the wounding power of a rifle round out to 400 yards.  Yes, it think he would have liked the AK.
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    « Reply #21 on: September 21, 2016, 03:29:12 PM »
    I'm pretty sure Patton would not have liked an AK.  Remember, he was an Olympic athlete in an event where he shot a target handgun.  Part of the Garand's attraction had to be it was adequately accurate at the battlefield distances of WWII.  And he also never mentioned the Sturmgevehr, which he would have been aware of, even if not familiar.


    The Garand is not as accurate as modern guns, but it is a blast to shoot, and a piece of world history.  Not to mention, with a few tweaks it can be used to hunt, if you don't mind the weight.
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    « Reply #22 on: September 21, 2016, 03:56:39 PM »
    Having owned a .308 Garand, they are, like most weapons, more accurate than the shooter. Mine was nothing special and it was an MOA shooter from a sandbagged bench rest. The rear sight, with its fine adjustments for both windage and elevation, is IMO its best feature. It's idiot proof and the easiest to dial in that I've ever shot. I wish I still had it but I traded it for my beloved GP-100 and I have no regrets about that. A few years ago Springfield was making them in .308 but I think they discontinued them.
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    « Reply #23 on: September 21, 2016, 04:11:36 PM »
    Having owned a .308 Garand, they are, like most weapons, more accurate than the shooter. Mine was nothing special and it was an MOA shooter from a sandbagged bench rest. The rear sight, with its fine adjustments for both windage and elevation, is IMO its best feature. It's idiot proof and the easiest to dial in that I've ever shot. I wish I still had it but I traded it for my beloved GP-100 and I have no regrets about that. A few years ago Springfield was making them in .308 but I think they discontinued them.
    The special grade  from cmp  was available in .308. Brand new Criterion barrel. Don't know if they still have them.  An MOA Garand is something special, I think. As a matter of fact, ANY MOA rifle is special, if it is consistent.  People (not you!)go on about their MOA rifles in forums, but it is not so common to see repeatable five round groups under an inch. And a full clip into an inch would be spectacular for a Garand, IMO- The absolute best mine ever did was 8 rounds into 2", from a bench with a 2.5 Leopold on it. But it would put all eight into 2 1/2"-3" regularly. That was with surplus HXP. Good ammo.
     

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    « Reply #24 on: September 21, 2016, 04:53:30 PM »
    All they have right now is service grade luck of the draw SA/HRA and some sniper guns.  The CMP Specials sold out several months back.
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