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H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« on: June 24, 2012, 09:23:21 PM »
Any opinions on these for blasting groundhogs and general plinking.
I have an offer on one.
It is the camo predator version I believe.
Or, should I just buy a barrel, follower, and bolt head for our .308 and convert it to .223, or just rebarrel it for .22-250.
I REALLY want a small hotrod for laying the smack down on vermin, and the cost of .223 is highly attractive.
If I do the small bore route now... I wont need for my AR to be a .223, so it will more than likely become a .458, .450, or .50.
Decisions...


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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 09:31:53 PM »
I think its a handy little rifle, and could be very light and compact, especially if you put a synth stock on it.  A handy little woods gun for sure, I like all the H+R firearms I've bought, and they seem to be pretty accurate.  They don't cost that much either, so it wouldn't be a huge investment and at worst it could be a good loaner or backup.  Those things seem to last forever. 

I don't have the .223 model, but I've been happy with the single shot 12 guage, and my son loves the heck out of his first rifle, which was the .22lr / .410 with the synth stock. 

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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 09:39:59 PM »
It would really have to depend on the price I think. Under $200 I would go for it (maybe more if it comes with glass that makes it worthwhile). Over that and I'd go with the .22-250 barrel for the Savage.

.223 is nicely balanced and affordable, but in a single shot or bolt action where you're not going to be running through 30 rounds at a time... something like .22-250 is so much more.
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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 09:48:28 PM »
Not much experience with the current crop, although I haven't heard any negatives.   My H&R is about ninety years old - 16 gauge.   Not much you can do with a 22-250 that you can't do just as well with a .223.  Not much you can do with either in terms of vermin that can't be handled 90% of the time with a .17 HMR which will net you a considerable savings in ammo over time.   

Jesse's point is well taken if you're looking at busting prairie dogs @ 300 + yards or coyotes along the woods line in a bottomland beanfield but groundhogs and such are usually easy pickings under 200 yards for the .17 and you get it without the expense, the muzzle blast and the ricochet potential of the larger calibers.
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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 09:51:12 PM »
Jesse, .22-250... heavier hitters or 40gr at warp speeds?


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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 10:09:59 PM »
My primary reason to favor the .22-250 is pure entertainment value. Turning small varmints inside out is too much fun. Ask T., Harm, and Coyotesfan  >:D

At under 200 yards the 45gr loads @ 4000 fps is spectacular. Further out and with a bit of wind 55gr would be good.
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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 11:13:42 PM »
Looks like I am going to look for a savage take off barrel in .22-250.


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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2012, 11:19:50 PM »
The H&R's I have handled have felt solid about to pic up a 28" barrel 12ga by H&R actually.

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Re: H&R/NEF .223 Ultra Varmint
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2012, 03:45:15 AM »
Jesse, .22-250... heavier hitters or 40gr at warp speeds?


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55 grains doing roughly 3600.  Phenomenally accurate, it'll ruin a rockchuck's day.
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