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Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« on: February 14, 2010, 01:24:38 PM »
Is there a huge difference in the rifles themselves or did they just flip the numbers and add $300 on the price?...Im talking accuracy, feed, magazine accepting, trigger action etc... im curious to see if this is a rip off or a great deal.
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Russian AK 74 Rifle RAK IZ 240
$799.00

Egyptian AK 47 Rifle
$549.00

see the difference??
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2010, 01:29:45 PM »
Well for one thing they are in 2 different calibers.

    AK-47 is 7.62mm x 39mm.

    AK-74 is 5.45mm x 45mm.

   The AK-74 is a newer model on an older design.
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 01:30:23 PM »
USSR first started with the AK-47  they then went with a cheaper, easier to manufacture variant called the AKM

After seeing how well our 5.56 NATO worked in Vietnam, USSR realized it was superior to the 7.62x39, so they necked down their cartridge to 5.45x39 and began producing guns so chambered.  That happened in 1974, and the result is called the AK-74

Right now 5.45x39mm is significantly cheaper than 7.62x39 OR 5.56 NATO.  People who shoot a lot see the $300 initial investment for a 5.45 x 39 as a great deal in the long run.  Heck, some folks are buying 5.45 uppers for their AR-15 for this reason.

I am very seriously thinking about getting my first AR-15, and I am considering the 5.45 upper

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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 01:33:01 PM »
A Russian Kalashnikov will generally demand a premium over most other countries of origin. That's where the majority of the difference will come from.

There's also the issue that 74's generally sell for a bit more the 47's, due to there being fewer on the market and the fact the 5.45 ammo is dirt cheap.

Personally, I'd pass on both of the ones you're looking at and go for this instead.
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 01:39:55 PM »
A Russian Kalashnikov will generally demand a premium over most other countries of origin. That's where the majority of the difference will come from.

There's also the issue that 74's generally sell for a bit more the 47's, due to there being fewer on the market and the fact the 5.45 ammo is dirt cheap.

Personally, I'd pass on both of the ones you're looking at and go for this instead.



looks like a damn nice rifle a a damn nicer price...i got more than a few buddies that are gonna love that  ;D
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 06:59:29 PM »
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Personally, I'd pass on both of the ones you're looking at and go for this instead.
I personally second that. 
anyone know where I could get a RPK that shoots 5.45x39mm?
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 07:17:57 PM »
I personally second that. 
anyone know where I could get a RPK that shoots 5.45x39mm?

An RPK-74 is what you seek.

I haven't seen any US semi-autos for sale, but I see parts kits going for $700  :o
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 07:19:41 PM »
$700??  That's more than an RPK!  Oh well.  Maybe I can convince Crusader to make one.... :hmm
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 08:35:37 PM »
I'd second buying what Jesse recommended.  Although if they'd make a Pistol AK-74 I'd snatch THAT UP right quick!
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 02:00:20 AM »
I'm late to the party.

But I'd like to add that in addition to changing the caliber some other changes in the weapon were made.  Most notably. these are the addition of a distinctive muzzle brake, and a 90 degree gas block.  It also seems that the Soviets transitioned to polymer (bakelite) mags in this period.

I personally think that the AKs with these muzzle brakes and 90 degree gas blocks look so much cooler, but that's just opinion.  I figure that someday, I'll live in Free America, and I'll save up for a nice Saiga conversion (like something you get on K-Var) albeit in 7,62x39 instead of 5,45x39.  I wouldn't be opposed to owning a 5,45 variant though.
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 02:09:25 AM »
You just haven't tried them both yet FMJ.  Someday you'll understand!   :neener
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 09:09:08 AM »
We should have a WTA get together just to celebrate the day FMJ finally gains his freedom and moves out of Kalifornia. Everyone brings their guns and lets him shoot 'em.
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 10:41:49 AM »
We should have a WTA get together just to celebrate the day FMJ finally gains his freedom and moves out of Kalifornia. Everyone brings their guns and lets him shoot 'em.

That would be super awesome, I'm not gonna lie.  Or if I have to go to college here in Cali, I'll make a special pilgrimage out to Utah (or Arizona).
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 08:26:52 PM »
Not trying to be a J&G pimp but, well...

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/3751

Those AK-74s are $399.95 right now or $389.95 if you buy two.

Down $70 from when I first mentioned them.
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2010, 09:11:26 PM »
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2010, 09:36:19 PM »
J&G is one of those things that pimps itself.  A $400 AK 74?  That is absurdly cool.  (and cheap ammo!) If I had money I'd jump on this like a ravenous beast.
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2010, 12:22:28 PM »
After seeing how well our 5.56 NATO worked in Vietnam, USSR realized it was superior to the 7.62x39, so they necked down their cartridge to 5.45x39 and began producing guns so chambered.  That happened in 1974, and the result is called the AK-74


Nope, the 5,45x39 is its own case. You are talking about the 220 russian, aka the 5.6x39, and the 22 ppc is also a necked down 7,62x39 case.

Left to right, 5.6x39, 5.45x39, 7.62x39, 7.62x54R




    AK-74 is 5.45mm x 45mm.

  


Nope, its a 5.45x39. AK 101, Galil and Sig556 are available in 5.56x45
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Re: Difference between AK47 and AK74??
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2010, 12:26:41 AM »
For a couple of years I had available to me a select fire AKS-74U (Krinkov).  I shot it like it was free (because it was for me  ;D).  I won't say it was made of pure awesomeness, but it was made of a highly refined grade of awesomeness.  Part of the reason for that was the 5.45x39 cartridge.

If I could afford it, I would have an SBR version.  Unfortunately, by the time I could afford a parts kit the supplies had dried up  :'(

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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2010, 01:11:32 AM »
For a couple of years I had available to me a select fire AKS-74U (Krinkov).  I shot it like it was free (because it was for me  ;D).  I won't say it was made of pure awesomeness, but it was made of a highly refined grade of awesomeness.  Part of the reason for that was the 5.45x39 cartridge.

If I could afford it, I would have an SBR version.  Unfortunately, by the time I could afford a parts kit the supplies had dried up  :'(

I am jealous.

Both you sir, and Harm say this 5.45x39 is sweet.  What exactly about it besides the price?  Is it ballistics or just a fun factor?
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2010, 11:59:02 PM »
Both you sir, and Harm say this 5.45x39 is sweet.  What exactly about it besides the price?  Is it ballistics or just a fun factor?

D. All of the above.

Right now 5.45x39 costs roughly half what 5.56 ammo costs.  However, since all of it is imported from Russia that situation can change at any time.  When I was shooting lots of it, the price didn't matter to me since I did not have to pay for it.

In terms of ballistics, the cartridge has much going for it.  It can be a very accurate round, but is limited by the rifles available for it and bullet selection.  The AK is not praised for its accuracy (though it is more accurate than people give it credit for) and the only bolt action rifle I have seen for it was an East German rifle that was very poorly made and was generally less accurate than a decent AK.  In my opinion, the 5.45 has better terminal ballistics than the 5.56 does with either the 55 grain or 62 grain military loads.  There are many hunting and LE bullets that far surpass military 5.56 ammo as well as 5.45 ammo.  The 5.45 is limited by the fact that it is only produced with FMJ bullets.  Compared to 7.62x39 it does have less penetration but still does well in ballistic performance (until you compare with Hornaday 7.62x39 loaded with their V-Max bullet).

5.45 also has low recoil.  Even a small, lightweight gun like a Krinkov is easy to control on full auto.  In semi-auto, fast double and triple taps are no problem.

Finally, it is something different and uncommen, giving it a certain cool factor.


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