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Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« on: November 07, 2009, 08:10:07 PM »
Is anyone besides DPMS doing a .243 in the AR 10 platform?  Don't say Remington.  Under the camo dip, it's a DPMS.  Likewise, why are Armalite ar10 mags smaller than DPMS ar 10 mags?  Is there no standardization?  I want the .243 because it fills a hole in my collection and will be an awesome coyote gun.  .308 is right out because I don't want/need one.  I am firm on the .243.  Very firm.
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 09:40:04 PM »
I cannot think of a major maker off the top of my head that makes a .243 AR-10...I know several makers of uppers only though.

Armalite uses modified M14 mags, which is why they look different than DPMS mags.

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 10:11:33 PM »
There is no standardization in the AR-10 pattern world.

You either have the SR-25/DPMS pattern magwell or the Armalite AR-10 pattern magwell. I beleive CMMG also makes a G-3 mag lower and I thought they also made an FAL mag lower.

Magpul is going to produce their PMAGs for the SR-25/DPMS magwell rifles, IIRC.

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 12:01:28 AM »
Why the not the DPMS?  Their AR-15's definitely lack but the LR-XXX rifles are very nice and accurate.
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 03:17:38 PM »
I don't have anything against the DPMS, just kinda leery about the mag difference thing and when they are the only guys doing the complete rifle...  C Pro. mags fit the DPMS/ Remington and we have a ton on hand at the store.  I guess that clinches the DPMS.  Do you have to stick with DPMS upgrade parts in the lower?  I know I will have to get a new trigger setup.  After Christmas, the next step will be optics.
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 03:34:13 PM »
Plenty of other companies make AR-10s...and most of them are DPMS' standard (mags and such, most are DPMS type, KAC's are, etc), but they figger, since DPMS has a .243 out already, and there isn't much of a demand for a high end one, why make it? It doesn't appeal to the tacticool market like a .308 does. ;)

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 03:57:43 PM »
Why the not the DPMS?  Their AR-15's definitely lack but the LR-XXX rifles are very nice and accurate.

What's lacking on a DPMS AR-15?


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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 04:31:31 PM »
Magpul is going to produce their PMAGs for the SR-25/DPMS magwell rifles, IIRC.


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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 05:43:03 PM »
What's lacking on a DPMS AR-15?

Their Panther target models are OK but the carbine models are a cheaper grade.

They don't shot peen or magnetic particle test the bolt, the gas key and castle nut is not staked, and from what I have seen they do not chrome line the barrels.  Just a lot of little corners that are cut.
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 05:47:01 PM »
OK, with a long hiatus, I have news.  I have the rifle.  It shoots awesome.  I am currently tinkering with the trigger to get it smoothed out because the break-in trigger job (3000+ rounds down range) is way too darned expensive even with crappy .243 ammo.  I'm loving the way the gun handles and groups hornaday factory loaded 58 grain v-max.  I will be building some 55 grain nosler rounds to see if the rifle will still shoot as tight.  Flipping through the Nosler book I ran into some interesting information...  The .243 55 grain projectile has a better coefficient than the .22 cal slug of the same weight.  And in 22-250, velocity was about sixes between .243 and 22-250.  Hence my whole reason for the .243 Ar.  With the 55 grain bullet, I essentially have a 22-250 with a fat stack of 20 round magazines.  And hand loading for the beast means that I can afford to shoot it every bit as cheaply as my .223 AR. 
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 05:51:42 PM »
  Dang, I'm interested.  Pics of the rifle and groups, please :D

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 08:39:54 PM »
And hand loading for the beast means that I can afford to shoot it every bit as cheaply as my .223 AR. 

Don't make me want one... A .243 Broadsword...  :banghead
Oh... wait... I could get that AT COST!

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2010, 11:48:30 PM »
Haven't doped out the load yet.  Life gets in the way a little too much.  Pics will follow soon.  Promise.
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 07:37:00 AM »
So, after entirely too long here is a photo of the rifle.
/Users/benthompson/Desktop/243 of the beast.jpg
I took the pic with my phone.  I still need to put in some press/range time to see how well I can get the 6mm Nostler 55 grain bullets to play on paper out of the rifle.  Not enough hours in a day.
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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 10:49:22 AM »
Remington is the only other one I can think of, and they are pricey. I have one at the shop that we just can't sell. .243 is just hard to market in an AR10 when you could have 308.

I found that Armalite has an AR10 offering at about the same price as Remington. And these guys make an upper for 243. My google-fu is weak today...holiday weekend and such.

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2010, 02:10:08 PM »
So, after entirely too long here is a photo of the rifle.
/Users/benthompson/Desktop/243 of the beast.jpg
I took the pic with my phone.  I still need to put in some press/range time to see how well I can get the 6mm Nostler 55 grain bullets to play on paper out of the rifle.  Not enough hours in a day.

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Re: Bitten by a .243 bug. Need AR 10 options.
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2010, 12:46:33 PM »
Yeah, the zen of posting pics is something I have yet to master.  I try again.  Sorry for the flub Lebowski.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2010, 12:50:56 PM »
Damn thats cool.  And the regular DPMS 308 PMAGS will run the .243? 
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2010, 10:30:33 AM »
And the regular DPMS 308 PMAGS will run the .243? 
Yup.  .243 is just a .308 necked down to 6mm.  case length and width are identical, just a smaller projectile.
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