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Re: 585 HE -- Barrels of Cases --
« Reply #75 on: March 12, 2017, 09:21:44 PM »
I keep telling myself that I need one of these like I need another armpit, and that for what I hunt, and where I hunt it, it would be slightly less useful than a rubber crutch.

Then I catch myself looking at left-handed Savage 20-ga. bolt shotguns, and wondering......
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    Re: 585 HE -- Barrels of Cases --
    « Reply #76 on: March 13, 2017, 05:06:53 PM »
    Welcome to the dark side .   .   .     :cool
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    Re: 585 HE -- Barrels of Cases --
    « Reply #77 on: April 25, 2017, 08:46:34 PM »
    Here is picture of a brake on 12ga FH with real hot loaded
    hollowbase lead slug, brake needed more clearance
    for  the expanding slug.




    Here is the  before and after of  375 HE cases,   
     2 on left necked,  2 on right formed in hydro die after necking..



    Here is pic of 416 HSM second from left we are experimenting
    with, going to see if we can make the ultimate 416 ELR case.
    Can be 3.60" to 4.00" long, a long one pictured.
    Holds over  280 gr ball powder under bullet. In the picture,
    1st case is 416 HE, 2nd 416 HSM, 3rd 375 HE, 4th 378 WEA.

    416 HSM will get 400gr to 4100 plus without needing BMG action,
    470 gr 3800 plus , it may be the ultimate target, singleshot 416..
    Case will work in fat bolt actions, with heavy enough barrel
    to have good, milder, barrel harmonics and srtill  be under 50 lbs.
    A lot of the 2 mile type shoots are adopting 50lb limit.



    Here is picture of  the 416 HSM fireformed once,
    next to bmg case we make it from and as we
    improve wildcatting process next few weeks
    some specs may make small changes, now from
    base to shoulder is 3.45", case 3.97" long. Ed..





    Manson has 416 HE and 408 HE prints, as well as 375 HE
    He can also make you a resize die reamer from that info.
    We got 700 cases in 416 and one more pass if 408s wanted, ,
    Going to do lot more cases for these 2 sizes also,
    Questions, PM or email. ph 989-644-5228..

    Here are final specs for 416 HE.
    Length 3.32",  belt diameter  ,655",  base dia  .635" ,
    length base to to shoulder 2.860" , 30 deg shoulder.Ed

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    Re: 585 HE -- Barrels of Cases --
    « Reply #78 on: April 26, 2017, 12:22:18 AM »
    That is hauling a&& for a bullet that size.    :cool
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