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Unique powder
« on: October 20, 2008, 02:41:46 PM »
I've recently been given 25# of Unique. I plan to use it in a .45 ACP & LC. I'd like about 800fps in both and will be using cast lead. So any load data out there to start with? Thanks.
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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 02:47:09 PM »
Alliant Powder has load data (Including a couple lead bullet Unique loads for .45 ACP And LC) online at:

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipeList.aspx?gauge=&gtypeid=1&title=Pistols%20and%20Revolvers

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 04:05:06 PM »
I use Unique with .45acp.  Works well.  I don't have the load data handy--will post when I get a chance. 

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 04:24:33 PM »
25 lb of Unique? that's a lot of bang!  Anyway, I also use Unique in .45 ACP  my load is 5.2 gr behind a hard cast 200 gr. SWC with a W-W large pistol Primer and a stout crimp.  Works very well in the 3 different autoloaders I have.

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 09:50:20 PM »
That's a lot of reloaded ammo... 7,000 grains per pound.
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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 10:05:30 PM »
Enough powder for around 18,000 rounds of .45 Colt.

And from what I can see, 18,000 rounds of factory loaded .45 Colt could easily run you $10,000.

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 12:38:34 AM »
Enough powder for around 18,000 rounds of .45 Colt.

And from what I can see, 18,000 rounds of factory loaded .45 Colt could easily run you $10,000.



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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 03:04:14 PM »
An outstanding acquisition, sir! 

The product was extremely well named, as it was truly "unique," especially for the era - - something over 100 years ago, IIRC.  It does extremely well in a VERY wide variety of handgun cartridges, and will also serve in shotshells and gallery rifle loads. 

I have my favorite loads of Unique in .45 ACP, .45 Auto Rim, .455 Webley, .45 Colt, .44 spl, .41 mag, .40 S&W, .357 mag, .Super .38, .38 spl, .38 S&W, 9x19mm, and .380 ACP.  I use some other powders as well, but I COULD get along with only this one pistol powder.

Some dislike Unique, citing it as a "dirty" powder.  Well, it DOES leave a bore looking a touch dark after a few boxes, especially with lead bullets.  But, really, this is mostly soot, and not true fouling.  A single pass with a Bore Snake or a dry patch on a cleaning rod gives a pretty clean barrel.  That and a bit of toothbrushing on breech face and feed ramp keeps you i9n business for literally hundreds of shots. 

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 03:39:53 PM »
Agreed.  If I was stuck with a single powder for everything I load, unique would get the nod.  What other powder can go from light 38's to almost full tilt 44 mag stuff, and fill in in a rifle in a pinch?
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 09:34:50 PM »
Unique AKA "Flaming Dirt." It shoots well in everything I 've tried it in. It also leaves a black film on your gun, hands, and anything you touch. In all fairness, I must say it's cleaner than it used to be.

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2008, 02:21:44 PM »
Some dislike Unique, citing it as a "dirty" powder.  Well, it DOES leave a bore looking a touch dark after a few boxes, especially with lead bullets.  But, really, this is mostly soot, and not true fouling.

I started out with Unique for 45 LC in the early 90's and it was dirty.  I have switched to Clays since then but I hear the newer Unique is much cleaner.

I have made some light loads in 30-06 with Unique and a cast bullet.  The recoil is very light.
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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 02:29:16 PM »
"New" unique is much cleaner.  But clays is cleaner still.  Soon as the unique I have is used up, I'll be using clays for light pistol loads instead.

Not sure how clays would do in reduced rifle loads though, so my earlier post stands.
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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 04:19:35 AM »
I like it a lot, but use it in 357, 44Mag, and 45 LC.   No reason
why it would not be good in the ACP.   Please confir with a couple
of loading books before ya decide on a load.   It's a fairly fast burn
rate

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2008, 05:35:50 PM »
"Flaming Dirt".  Heh.

I load 5.1 gr Unique under 200 gr RNFP.  Right around 800 fps.

I dunno, I suppose it is dirtier than some but you're going to clean them anyway.  Great all around powder.


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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2008, 07:21:21 PM »
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What other powder can go from light 38's to almost full tilt 44 mag stuff, and fill in in a rifle in a pinch?

OK, I've not seen that.  What calibers, and what are the loads like?

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2008, 12:09:28 AM »
2400 works well for reduced loads and cast bullets in many rifle calibers.  I still have a can of 2400 "Rifle Powder" around.  They haven't called it that in a while.
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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2008, 03:46:04 PM »
7 gr.behind 185's, 6 gr. behind 230's in a 1911 will put them in the 10 ring @ 25 yards or the black @ 50.
Around 900fps.

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Re: Unique powder
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2008, 06:57:04 PM »
Unique is good stuff.  I have loaded .45acp, 9mm and .380acp with Unique.  All with good results.  Yeah, its a little sooty.  But the soot comes right off if you clean your gun.


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