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Favorite Powder for .223
« on: October 29, 2008, 01:53:29 PM »
What are some favorite powders for the .223.  I have some H4895, I know some people use it.  Anyone have experience with this one or something better perhaps?


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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 07:02:42 PM »
I've used H4895sc, just because it metered better than 4895, and I also had a .300wm I loaded for.

I picked up some H322 and H335 to try out. I'm kinda sold on H335 for .223.

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 07:13:10 PM »
All I've used so far has been H4895 and some TiteGroup for subsonics.

I had no real complaints about either, but I haven't tried working up a really accurate load yet either.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2008, 09:04:18 PM »
H335 is my first choice for .223, but I have also had good results with IMR 4198.

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 09:56:52 PM »
Another vote for h335.  At least with the standard weight stuff.  Heavies?  Don't know, don't load 'em.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 11:03:06 PM »
Thanks guys,  that is what I was looking for.   Speer #13 manual states a magnum primer with H335.

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 11:07:24 PM »
Note-  If you also like 150 sierra flat points in 30-30, work up to the max load listed on the H335 bottle label.  Trust me.  I've got six different win 94 30-30s that cut one slightly oblong hole at 50 yards with that load.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 12:30:26 AM »
Remind me how fast those burn.  The direct impingement was intended for a fast burning powder that just vented gas through the gas system, not partially burned powder(the problem with the M16 in Vietnam). 
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 05:24:26 PM »
AA-2230 and AA-2460 have worked well for me. My pet load for my Ruger 77V is R-P case, CCI SR Mag primer, Sierra 52gr HPBT Match King bullet, and 23.5 gr AA-2460. From a bench and sandbags, it will literally shoot 1 hole groups all day. This powder also works well with all bullet weights from 40gr to 60 gr. The .223 is so versitile and inherently accurate, it's almost impossible to find a load in a manual that doesn't shoot well. Good luck.

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 08:44:02 PM »
Fastest to slowest on the above mentioned powders:  H335, AA2230, AA2460, 4895.  But all four are very close in the charts I have. With Vihtavuori N135 falling between H335 and AA2230.  Other than that they're stacked right on top of each other.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2008, 10:19:41 PM »
I like Viht 135...very clean.  H335 meters very nicely.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 10:24:15 PM »
Viht powders, across the board, are some of, if not THE cleanest powders made.  I'd use them a lot more if they weren't so blasted expensive.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 12:00:49 AM »
I'll be the oddball here and say I've had great results with Varget.
It's my goto powder for about every rifle I have.
I use the same load in my .222 as my .223

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 09:27:26 AM »
I'm glad to read what works well!

BL-C(2) works alright for me but I'm going to switch to another rifle powder once I use up my last 8# of it.

I've worked up what I think is a decent accuracy load (about 1" group at 100 yards), but in my 16" carbine using BL-C(2) even at the max load (27.5 grains for 55FMJ bullet) will not get the bullet speed up to where it ought to be.  The load guide says that ought to be about 3300 fps (20" or 24" barrel) but out of my carbine the max load is only going about 2940 fps. 

I think if I switch to one of the other powders I can bump that up while keeping the accuracy.


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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2008, 03:35:39 AM »
4198, BL C, 4895

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2008, 12:16:12 PM »
Varget powder is one of my favorites...wide spectrum of uses... with great accuracy.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2008, 05:29:51 PM »
Varget for me too!

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 05:26:15 PM »
I've been using ramshot...either Xterminator or TAC. Meters great and cheap...$16 a pound here.

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 12:10:02 AM »
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Speer #13 manual states a magnum primer with H335.
And that's what I use. 26 Gr. of H335 lit by a magnum primer, pushing a 45gr soft point. Its my varmit load.  Fast, and accurate.

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2008, 12:01:02 AM »
Varget powder is one of my favorites...wide spectrum of uses... with great accuracy.
I like Varget but it doesn't meter well through my Lee and Dillon powder measures.  I am now playing with Benchmark which is a shorter grain than Varget but is supposed to have the same properties including resistance to "extreme" temperatures.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2008, 01:40:53 AM »
I tried both 4895 and Varget while developing my load. The Varget produced about 1/4" tighter groups at - all - weights.

I also use the Lyman 1200 to throw the charge. It varies +0/-.1 on the 25Gr under a Hornady 52Gr HP Match.
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2008, 08:05:14 PM »
I've had good results with Winchester-Western 748 and 55 grain bullets. IMR 4198 worked well for me too.

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2008, 10:52:23 AM »
 Like Marshalldodge was writing, VihtaVuori N-135 and for lighter bullets N-133 are very fine and clean burning. I think. "Nato" uses N-133. This powder is not so easy to find here in Finland.(Do┬┤nt use it. please :clap)

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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2009, 12:51:18 PM »
Varget seems to work well. A few years (lots of years) ago, I got 8 pounds of good ole 748, and have been using it since. 25grs with a 55 Vmax on top seems to work well in my M77. Reminds me, I need to go load, its been a while!
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Re: Favorite Powder for .223
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2009, 11:17:55 PM »
H322, H335, IMR4895, IMR4064, AA2230, and Varget. I am not sure which one I like the best. I am experimenting with H322, but I think I will settle on H335 and AA2230. Way too many choices in powders. (Varget works real well too, dangit!)

The main problem I have with Varget is that it seams to be a compressed load in all cases. It does shoot real nice though.  AA2230, H322, and H335 meter very well.


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