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long range stand-off weapons (in cases where the air defenses are more capable). There is no need to maneuver. There is a need to move a huge amount of crap to the drop-point.

They better be REAL long range. Russia and China are developing AWACS killers that can fly hundreds of miles to kill our big slow movers.
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Firearms Training and Competition / Re: WV welcomes Crusader Weaponry!
« Last post by FSCJedi on Today at 11:44:49 AM »
Just to give people some inside info, I only have three people PAID for both courses, and one extra PAID for just the shotgun course.  We need AT LEAST 6 people total for each course each day.  We've had lots of interest, but not as many plunking down the cash.  This is the first Crusader course set being taught here on the East Coast, and it just happens to come at a great time in George's life in that he has just moved to the East Coast.  We're hoping that if this class is successful, it will lead to many more classes in the future. 
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Firearms Training and Competition / Re: WV welcomes Crusader Weaponry!
« Last post by FSCJedi on Today at 11:35:52 AM »
Hey everyone, another update for you!  For anyone who might be struggling to locate the rifled slugs for the shotgun class, we have a bunch in stock!  They are 12 ga. 2-3/4" rifled slugs from Remington and Federal.  We will be keeping these back SPECIFICALLY for class members and will be offering them to you all at just over our cost, which ends up being about $5/box plus tax.  We also have a small amount of Winchester Super-X 00-Buck 12 ga. available for the same deal, but it's about $5.75/box plus tax.  ANYONE who is coming to the class can call me and pay for up to the required quantity of rounds for the course (4 boxes each) at this discounted price and I will set them back with your name on it.  Any additional boxes of rounds you want to purchase will be full retail.

Also a reminder, the courses are now just FOUR WEEKS AWAY!  Anyone planning to attend who hasn't paid me yet, please give me a call and get on the list.  Thanks everyone, and I look forward to training with you!
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General Non-Firearms Discussion / Re: Is a -gate opening in DC?
« Last post by goatroper on Today at 11:29:56 AM »
This is going to get interesting.  Until they're all lawyered up and ready to talk -- or not, as I'd guess immense pressure is being brought to bear on them right now -- won't know for sure how much more the dike is crumbling.

http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2013/05/21/pjm-exclusive-ex-diplomats-report-new-benghazi-whistleblowers-with-info-devastating-to-clinton-and-obama/

PJM EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama

by Roger L Simon

More whistleblowers will emerge shortly in the escalating Benghazi scandal, according to two former U.S. diplomats who spoke with PJ Media Monday afternoon.

These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.

According to the diplomats, what these whistleblowers will say will be at least as explosive as what we have already learned about the scandal, including details about what really transpired in Benghazi that are potentially devastating to both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

The former diplomats inform PJM the new revelations concentrate in two areas — what Ambassador Chris Stevens was actually doing in Benghazi and the pressure put on General Carter Ham, then in command of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) and therefore responsible for Libya, not to act to protect jeopardized U.S. personnel.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

Hillary Clinton still wanted to proceed because, in part, as one of the diplomats said, she wanted “to overthrow Gaddafi on the cheap.”

This left Stevens in the position of having to clean up the scandalous enterprise when it became clear that the “insurgents” actually were al-Qaeda – indeed, in the view of one of the diplomats, the same group that attacked the consulate and ended up killing Stevens.

The former diplomat who spoke with PJ Media regarded the whole enterprise as totally amateurish and likened it to the Mike Nichols film Charlie Wilson’s War about a clueless congressman who supplies Stingers to the Afghan guerrillas. “It’s as if Hillary and the others just watched that movie and said ‘Hey, let’s do that!’” the diplomat said.

He added that he and his colleagues think the leaking of General David Petraeus’ affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell was timed to silence the former CIA chief on these matters.

Regarding General Ham, military contacts of the diplomats tell them that AFRICOM had Special Ops “assets in place that could have come to the aid of the Benghazi consulate immediately (not in six hours).”

Ham was told by the White House not to send the aid to the trapped men, but Ham decided to disobey and did so anyway, whereupon the White House “called his deputy and had the deputy threaten to relieve Ham of his command.”

The White House motivation in all this is as yet unclear, but it is known that Ham retired quietly in April 2013 as head of AFRICOM.

PJ Media recognizes this is largely hearsay, but the two diplomats sounded quite credible. One of them was in a position of responsibility in a dangerous area of Iraq in 2004.

We will report more as we learn it.
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Handguns / Re: Interesting pic(s), interesting revolver
« Last post by only1asterisk on Today at 11:18:30 AM »
The stories about bottle neck cases being bad ju-ju in wheelguns is the only reason one of my 44 blackhawks hasn't been turned into a 357/44 Bain and Davis.  This cartridge we're discussing here?  Oh, the possibilities...........


The Bain and Davis is a quite literally a blast.  So long as you install some kind of sacrificial shield to prevent top strap erosion, it is good to go.  Jack+ 1800fps 110 JHP= modern art.

I need to get to work on my 40-454.
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Automotive / Re: New Bike
« Last post by NTexas_V-Star on Today at 11:06:34 AM »
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This is a most strange development.  Not sure what to make of it; lots of suggestions in the comments at the link, but hard to guess what might be going on and why.

http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2013/05/important-update-to-perazzi-story.html

Monday, May 20, 2013
Important Update to Perazzi Story
In all the years I've been writing, this has never happened to me before. I am starting to go from stunned to pissed.  I just posted this update to the Perazzi/Denver shotgun arrest story:



IMPORTANT UPDATE: Perazzi has released the following statement on its website, translated using Google Translate:
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE by Perazzi SPA
With regard to reports in the American press, in relation to an alleged arrest for "terrorism" by Daniele Perazzi (founder of Perazzi Armi SpA), we point out that the news is completely devoid of any foundation. Daniele Perazzi is however, unfortunately, failed to live for about a year. Even his son, Mauro, was last Saturday in the USA. As reported in the press is absolutely false. The company Perazzi, however, contrary to what is written, is familiar with the American legislation on weapons because of his extensive and well-known activities of marketing its products in the USA. Since it is difficult to think of simple error, it is believed that someone who has interests contrary to those of the Perazzi SpA, may have spread false and misleading information purposes only defamatory. The company has already instructed his lawyers to take the most appropriate actions, civil and criminal, in order to protect the brand represented and its activity, carried on the American market. Perazzi Armi SpA
PRESS RELEASE From Perazzi SpA With reference to press reports Concerning Daniele Perazzi's alleged unlawful arrest for terrorism last Saturday in Denver (Colorado), That we were the incident is devoid of any foundation and the news is completely fabricated. Daniele Perazzi (founder of Perazzi SpA) died last year, and his son Mauro was not in the United States last Saturday. The Perazzis are not involved in. any wrongdoing in any way, shape or form and, to our best knowledge, are not under investigation or scrutiny nor are targets of criminal proceedings. The Perazzi Company, contrarily to what Has Been Reported, is very familiar with the U.S. legislation on two weapons to its extensive presence in the American market. Perazzi is considering to take legal action to protect the brand and the Company's reputation in the USA. Perazzi SpA

Since this story has started to gain wider attention, my role in this, why I posted this and the standards I used before publishing merit scrutiny.
I was sent an email from a very well-known Second Amendment attorney titled "major urgent story." As I protect my sources, I will be immediately sending him an email asking if I may disclose his name.
He set down the story, essentially as presented in my Examiner column, and gave me as contacts NRA Director Schreiner and another attorney, one whose CV includes Oxford and Harvard--she requested I not use her name for attribution and I honored that for my story.
I called both and had extensive conversations that include contemporaneous notes of our conversations, and they both independently confirmed the contents of the email and each others' accounts.

To further source the story, I linked to a Fox News Channel 31 Denver report.

I also called the Adams County Sheriff's Office and left a voice mail with the Public Information Officer. As it was Sunday, no one answered and no call has been returned.

Before publishing the story, I sent it to the Colorado attorney who confirmed the story for an accuracy check, and she replied back that it was "well written" and "approved." She is also the one who told me that the Daniele Perazzi in the story was the grandson of the founder. I have the emails to document this.
After publishing, I sent the story link to Schreiner, to the attorney who tipped me to the story, and to the attorney who acted as a source.

This afternoon, a colleague sent me the link to the Perazzi press release. I immediately called Schreiner who maintains he was at the Collectors Show and has first-hand knowledge of some of the information stated as fact, and was directly told about the rest from show management. I also left a call for the source attorney and left a voice mail telling her of these developments and asking her to call me.

The bottom line is, I went through an extraordinary level of verification on this story before publishing it.
If it turns out that it is, as the press release states, "completely devoid of any foundation," that means someone went to extraordinary lengths to create and perpetuate a hoax story, and to draw me and others into it, and to smooth entry by using credible people.

As something like this can destroy a reputation, I too, am absolutely invested in getting to the truth of this matter, horrified by this development, and committed to identifying anyone who would do such a thing.
I am going to leave the original story intact below and will be writing a follow-up article when more information becomes known.

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General Firearms Discussion / Re: let's talk about ABILITY.
« Last post by Plebian on Today at 10:58:20 AM »
I do quite a bit of pistol practice at 25-50 yards. My situation puts me in  many areas where I only have my pistol and might be forced to engage at ranges even over 50 yards. It is not uncommon for me to walk up on grow ops or stills. I would likely be at a distinct disadvantage, but I try and at least make it where I have a fighting chance. The only logical conclusion I can find is to practice with my pistol at ranges beyond "pistol range".

I put almost 90% of my practice in with my pistol. The rifle and shotgun are huge holes in my training program now. Since the pistol is with me 99% of the time. It is hard for me to invest in training with rifle and shotgun. I love long range rifle shooting, but fat lot of good it would do me in any sort of "tactical" rifle situation.
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General Firearms Discussion / Re: let's talk about ABILITY.
« Last post by sqlbullet on Today at 10:40:03 AM »
did you get a contract somewhere or a promise that any problems or issues that come up will either be 7 yards and closer or you'll have advance notice so you can get your rifle ?

I got that deal.  Let me see if I can find the insurance agents number that sold me that policy.
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General Firearms Discussion / Re: let's talk about ABILITY.
« Last post by Chief45 on Today at 10:32:44 AM »
**SNIP**

I confine all my handgun practice to 7 yds and less,


Why ?    did you get a contract somewhere or a promise that any problems or issues that come up will either be 7 yards and closer or you'll have advance notice so you can get your rifle ? 

in other words,  nice box your putting yourself in.







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