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Siege of Jadotville
« on: September 18, 2016, 11:20:32 PM »
 

  I'm very much awaiting this.  1960's Congo conflict.   The various African conflicts have always been a huge draw to me.   Mainly because they were often many-sided, with various ins and outs most people often ignore, Such as Communist Cuba sending many, MANY thousands of troops to fight in the Angola Civil War, the Rhodesian Bush war and the Congo Civil War.

    The Wild Geese is a good favorite movie of mine.  This looks like it may match it.

   
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    Re: Siege of Jadotville
    « Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 09:46:57 AM »
    Definitely has that Wild Geese look to it. I'm game.

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    « Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 11:12:31 AM »
    Looks good. I appreciate you bringing it up
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    « Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 01:11:29 PM »
    Heck yeah! Thanks! That era has always been a major interest of mine and strangelittleman's.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 01:27:21 PM »
    This does look very good  :thumbup1.
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    « Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 01:50:18 PM »
    Oohh...so many FAL's...sorry got distracted


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    « Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 03:50:12 PM »
    Looks like another Rorke's Drift situation.
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    « Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 10:46:24 PM »
      Although the style of writing was awesome, the short "Sweothi city" in it's old THR form, Written by Nightcrawler is what really got me "OMG I LOVE THIS WRITER" into his stuff.   It was the 2nd chapter I read of his.       

      And yeah.....I'm restarting my cancelled African fiction short. 
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    « Reply #8 on: September 21, 2016, 06:30:30 PM »
    Looks like another Rorke's Drift situation.


    Yup.

    "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey". Those darn Irish. ;)

    *Spoiler alert* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jadotville
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    « Reply #9 on: October 14, 2016, 01:41:21 AM »
    I watched it today when I got up (on midnights 1800-0600) and liked it. It surprised me in that it showed the UN and its bureaucrats for the sleaze bags they are. That was very atypical for Hollywood.

    That said, it had too many gun goofs to list. They were everywhere, like I was watching a '80's Chuck Norris flick.

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    I could go on and on about the gun discrepancies but the story was cool. And based on real events in 1961. I've always loved the Africa of that era and this is worth seeing if you can overlook the technical details.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 14, 2016, 12:23:42 PM »
    Yeah, the movie had many flaws.   But it was still pretty good for a low budget.    The Sniper Bren thing did have me scratching my head too.   
    Still enjoyed it. 
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    « Reply #11 on: October 14, 2016, 03:19:48 PM »
    The high point for me was spotting the AAT-52.
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    Re: Siege of Jadotville
    « Reply #12 on: October 14, 2016, 03:35:47 PM »
    I caught myself telling the Irish sniper to pick off the truck mounted weapons, the white (French Foreign Legion) merc officers and the the machine gunners.

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    It still a good Africa flick.
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    « Reply #13 on: December 23, 2016, 11:04:31 PM »
    Saw it, I very much enjoyed it.

    I also was frustrated with the lack of truck gunner sniping. And what was wrong with the scoped bolt gun for shooting the man in the white suit?  :banghead
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    Re: Siege of Jadotville
    « Reply #14 on: December 23, 2016, 11:48:51 PM »
    I watched it a few weeks ago.   I liked that bit towards the end where they made improvised claymores out of the spent cartridge casings and demolition explosives.   I wonder if that was taken from the actual battle.  It was pretty amazing that the Irish were able to hold out for as long as they did with only a few wounded and no KIA.   

    And yes,  the thing with the sniper and BREN was just stupid. 
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    « Reply #15 on: December 25, 2016, 07:50:00 AM »
    I caught myself telling the Irish sniper to pick off the truck mounted weapons, the white (French Foreign Legion) merc officers and the the machine gunners.

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    « Reply #16 on: December 25, 2016, 11:07:11 PM »
    Far from a perfect film... Very low budget...
    But they did it well enough I found it compelling and with good story telling.  I enjoyed it enough I've watched it twice.
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    « Reply #17 on: December 26, 2016, 04:21:49 PM »
    I really enjoyed it too.
    so much so I'm saving for an SA58 now...
    450/1300...
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    « Reply #18 on: December 26, 2016, 04:57:37 PM »
    I really enjoyed it too.
    so much so I'm saving for an SA58 now...
    450/1300...

    I know........It sucks because this next year I can put ZERO into guns. and unless I get rida one of my main collection guns.......which I don't want to, lol.
     
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    « Reply #19 on: December 26, 2016, 05:01:55 PM »
    the gun I'm getting is a DSA SA58 Voyager 16, which is about 1k shipped. the other $300 is for mags, ammo, and a Para style rear Aperture sight.
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    Re: Siege of Jadotville
    « Reply #20 on: December 26, 2016, 07:21:42 PM »
    the gun I'm getting is a DSA SA58 Voyager 16, which is about 1k shipped. the other $300 is for mags, ammo, and a Para style rear Aperture sight.


    I know.....I've gotten to fondle a 21" one that I knew functioned (but didn't get a chance to shoot) and it looked well put together.     I'm wanting the 18" version though as I think there's a "slight" boost in reliability.

     
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    « Reply #21 on: December 26, 2016, 07:37:41 PM »
    I prefer the full size.   Then again, I'm somewhat tall with long monkey arms so short rifles all feel weird to me.    I really need to put the rest of my FAL kits together this year,  been sitting on them for too long. 
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    « Reply #22 on: December 26, 2016, 07:42:29 PM »
    I want an SLR/L1A1. Does DSA make any inch pattern rifles? It's been a while since I've looked through their products.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
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    « Reply #23 on: December 26, 2016, 07:49:48 PM »
    Not that I know of.  There are a few places out there that make inch pattern receivers, but they are more expensive and can be a little tough to find.  You'll also have to dig up a parts kit.  I still have one in addition to a few metrics.   
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    « Reply #24 on: December 26, 2016, 07:53:21 PM »
    Not that I know of.  There are a few places out there that make inch pattern receivers, but they are more expensive and can be a little tough to find.  You'll also have to dig up a parts kit.  I still have one in addition to a few metrics.

    That's what I was afraid of. Looks like I won't be able to own a premade inch pattern, like I want. I know next to nothing about the FAL to even attempt to assemble one myself.

    Sigh.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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