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Rogue One Review
« on: December 21, 2016, 11:06:09 PM »
Finally went and saw Rogue One this afternoon.  I decided to skip the first few days due to the crowds.   Also decided to hit the smaller theatre over in Newton instead of the Warren here in Wichita.  While the theatre isn't as nice (the Warren has the biggest and best IMAX screen in North America),  I figured the lower price and smaller crowds would make up for it.

First off, here is the spoiler free portion.   This movie was excellent.  I'd rate it right up there with The Empire Strikes Back.  This is what the prequels SHOULD have been.  Blows away Episode VII from last year too. 

The only downside I experienced was the general theatre experience.   Apparently kids these days get off for Christmas break a lot earlier than I used to, and the theatre was pretty full, even for a 4:40 showing on a Wednesday.   I hate the public, and it was really distracting listening to people munch on popcorn and unwrap candy bars for the first twenty minutes of the movie.   Also had a fat guy next to me that was a very heavy breather.  Seriously, it was like I had Darth Vader sitting next to me.   I look forward to watching it again in a venue where I can enjoy it without distractions.   Anyway, on to the spoilers.

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    Re: Rogue One Review
    « Reply #1 on: December 22, 2016, 08:23:45 AM »
      Didn't read the spoiler part.  I'm going next week sometime, probably to a 1-o clock sunday showing.

     I'm excited, though a bit disappointed to hear there won't be an opening scrawl.....seriously?  That's halfa the reason to go to star wars  :neener  And no, I didn't put it in spoilers because that is just saying what isn't there.

    I figure it has to be better than last years.  I was very "meh" about it.

     
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    Re: Rogue One Review
    « Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 08:48:06 AM »
    Yeah,  no opening scroll.  I think they were trying to set this apart from the "regular" Star Wars films.   The traditional Star Wars music is also used very sparingly and it has its own unique soundtrack.

    I agree about the one last year.  It was better than those abominations known as episodes I-III, but not on the level of the original trilogy.   
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    Re: Rogue One Review
    « Reply #3 on: December 23, 2016, 04:42:02 AM »
    I saw the film last night with my nephew and thought it was awesome. If Disney really did order lots of reshoots then their efforts paid off and the claims I heard from one source about it all being part of some pro-feminist, anti-white agenda were as accurate as the youtube video spending about an hour telling me why I'm not allow to like The Phantom Menace that I can only get through about seven minutes of before screaming at my computer that the guy who made it should have actually watched the film first and paid attention to it.
    Even though it is supposed to just be a single spin-off film I enjoyed it more than most of the regular films. Plus, since JJ Abrams had nothing to do with it you don't need to worry about massive amounts of earlier canon being destroyed to make way for it (it just negates part of one minor EU novel) or needing to go off and research lots of other material for the story to make proper sense.

    My current ranking of the films (not including the ewok films, The Clone Wars or the holiday special):
    1. The Empire Strikes Back.
    2. Rogue One
    3. Revenge of the Sith (Yes one of the prequels ranking up here. Not liking the prequels is not a bandwagon I'm ever jumping on)
    4. A New Hope
    5. Attack of the Clones
    6. The Force Awakens
    7. Return of the Jedi
    8. The Phantom Menace
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    Re: Rogue One Review
    « Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 08:51:35 AM »
    Here is how I'd rank them:

    1.  The Empire Strikes Back
    2.  Rogue One & A New Hope, tied.  Mainly because so much of what makes Rogue One great is how it ties in to A New Hope.  Seriously,  these two make an excellent double feature.  I just wish I had a good non Special Edition copy to watch right now. 
    4.  Return of the Jedi.   
    5. The Force Awakens
    6. Revenge of the Sith
    7. Attack of the Clones
    8. The Phantom Menace,  I would put this one even lower if I could.  I find this film to be an aboslute abomination that should not be allowed to exist.  The only redeeming feature it has is the lightsaber fight.   

    I'm not a prequel fan,  they, (and to a lesser extent the Special Editions) really annoyed me.  I was a Star Wars superfan before that,  and that stuff almost completely killed it for me.   Rogue One does a lot to redeem the franchise.  I didn't get why people were ranting about the pro-feminist stuff either.   Yes, one of the main characters was a woman.  So was Princess Leia.   I also thought it was good that a few of the pilots in the battle at the end were women.  It only makes sense that there would be some in a galaxy wide rebellion.  It's not like they were flying into battle blasting "I am Woman" as the soundtrack.   Just the usual cockpit chatter and shots of them flying that you see in every Star Wars movie.     
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    Re: Rogue One Review
    « Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 10:07:46 AM »
    By and large I thought the special editions were improvements.
    But Han shot first. It's as simple as that. When some thug is pointing a weapon at you it's not unreasonable to shoot first.
    I think that the Ghostbusters remake (which I haven't seen) has some people looking too hard for messages in films right now.

    I'm really tempted to order myself a Lego U-wing right now.  :hmm
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    « Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 11:50:30 AM »
    I really liked Rogue One and I've gotten to watch it twice since it came out. The first time I watched, it seemed like Rogue One was a little disjointed in a few places and it didn't flow in the beginning. Once I saw it the second time though and I knew all of the things that the characters were referring to, it suddenly seemed like the director spent the perfect amount of time setting up the plot.  :shrug

    In any case, I think we finally got the Star Wars movie we've all been waiting to see for two and a half decades. The story was great and it was incredibly fun to watch, but I appreciated it for one reason more than any other. In the past, the battles in Star Wars were always suitably massive / epic in scale and they were entertaining to watch, but they missed the most important part of fighting. They missed out on the people and what fighting costs. This movie showed that. That may not be something important to other folks, but it means something to me. In the other movies, the Rebels blow up a giant space station, lose an ice base (moving out must have been nice), they blow up a second even bigger space station, and then a bunch of creepy midget bears throw a dance party and use empty Stormtrooper helmets as drums. Yeah, people died along the way, but we didn't really know any of them and their deaths didn't mean anything more than watching Stormtroopers getting mowed down by space machineguns. Now let's dance!

    This movie not only showed good guys giving everything for a cause they believed in, it showed what can happen to people who believe so strongly in their cause that they will do anything for it. Sometimes good people have to do bad things for good reasons. For the best of reasons. But they don't get to walk away without any scars.

    Entertaining and educational? Big thumbs up from me. Hopefully next year's Star Wars can learn from Rogue One and Episode VIII will up its game.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 23, 2016, 10:53:50 PM »
    "It is well that war is so terrible, else we would grow too fond of it."

    And am I the only one who saw a bit of Marvin (from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) in K2?



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    Re: Rogue One Review
    « Reply #8 on: December 28, 2016, 11:08:28 PM »
    Apparently, Anthony Daniels cussed out Alan Tudyk for how they did K2, what with him not having to wear the uncomfortable costume and all...

    Finally saw it the other night - I thought they did a fantastic job tieing it together to A New Hope. My wife and I saw it with a friend and his daughter. At the end, my friend said "What, no Bothan spies? 'Many Bothan spies died to bring us this information'!"

    I calmly informed him he had the wrong episode. When he insisted the line was from Ep 4, I offered a bet. I started at $50, he shifted down to $20, but we shook on "Loser pays fees next time we go shooting."

    He probably should've gone for the $50.  May've been cheaper...  :cool

    In other news, we've successfully gotten my 3 yr old hooked - we watched A New Hope tonight, and he immediately started asking for toys for the movie.  :thumbup1

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    « Reply #9 on: December 28, 2016, 11:16:28 PM »
    It certainly was easier for Tudyk.  He wasn't wearing that costume suffering from heat exhaustion in the Tunisian desert like Daniels was.   
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    « Reply #11 on: December 29, 2016, 03:46:51 AM »
    I heard some time ago that when Anthony Daniels started work on A New Hope he was having such trouble delivering the lines that George Lucas almost had them all redubbed by a different actor. He couldn't find one with a voice he liked so Anthony Daniels remained as the voice of C-3PO. This means that for someone who's voice was almost cut entirely, he's now become the only actor whose voice is heard in all of the movies, radio plays and TV shows in which his character appears (not counting Phineas and Ferb where Simon Pegg does the voice).
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    « Reply #12 on: December 31, 2016, 04:36:52 PM »
    Saw it again at the IMAX today.   Even better the 2nd time around.   
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    « Reply #13 on: December 31, 2016, 11:55:29 PM »
      Went to see it a couple days ago.

    LOVED IT.  Still a bit peeved there was no opening scrawl (knew it going in).  But overall it saved the star wars universe from the reputation it's had in the last 3.5 of 4 movies (Ep7 was a huge improvement but....eh...to me).

       It FELT like Star Wars.   It was the movie I wish the last 4 had been.

     I am going to see it a 2nd time. 
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    « Reply #14 on: January 01, 2017, 07:35:08 AM »
    They got the setting and feel of Star wars right. Dirty storm troopers just feels like they were deployed, not dropped there for a scene.

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    I do need a lighter movie to watch though as I finally saw magnificent seven the night before going to see this. Both have good endings, just not really happy ones.

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    « Reply #15 on: January 01, 2017, 02:05:27 PM »
    As I mentioned upthread, we followed it a few nights later with A New Hope (also in tribute to Carrie Fisher's passing  :'( ). It worked.

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    « Reply #16 on: January 01, 2017, 02:31:53 PM »
    I'd like to watch A New Hope.  Unfortunately,  I've only got a Pan and Scan VHS copy,  the THX version from 1996 or so.   

    I'm tempted to hunt down the restored non-Special Edition online.   Wish I could just buy it instead of the version with all the crappy SE changes.   
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    « Reply #17 on: January 01, 2017, 03:35:39 PM »
    As I mentioned upthread, we followed it a few nights later with A New Hope (also in tribute to Carrie Fisher's passing  :'( ). It worked.

    One of the movie channels here in the UK has been running Star Wars films round the clock over Christmas (this started before Carrie Fisher died). Right now 'Return of the Jedi' is on.
    It would be rude of me not to keep watching them.
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    « Reply #18 on: January 01, 2017, 04:25:05 PM »
    I'd like to watch A New Hope.  Unfortunately,  I've only got a Pan and Scan VHS copy,  the THX version from 1996 or so.   

    I'm tempted to hunt down the restored non-Special Edition online.   Wish I could just buy it instead of the version with all the crappy SE changes.   


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    « Reply #19 on: January 01, 2017, 04:27:21 PM »
    *looks over at the multiple editions he has in his collection and whistles nonchalantly*

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    « Reply #20 on: January 01, 2017, 04:37:45 PM »
    *looks over at the multiple editions he has in his collection and whistles nonchalantly*

    Same here. All I'm missing is the re-mastered, non-special edition on VHS. I even have the two Ewok films  :-[  and the Holiday Special   :shocked
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    « Reply #21 on: January 01, 2017, 06:29:58 PM »
    I have not seen the movie, and will certainly wait until it comes out on DVD.  That said, I had heard quite a bit about 'evil' Darth Vader, and a certain scene at the end.  So naturally, I looked it up on youtube and watched it.

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    « Reply #22 on: January 01, 2017, 06:59:44 PM »
      I'd like to get the non-edited star wars original trilogy.   Some of the stuff they added was simply cringe-worthy.  Like Jabba in Episode IV, greedo shooting first,etc.etc.
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    « Reply #23 on: January 02, 2017, 11:16:09 PM »
    I loved it. I've seen it four times, the latest with my son Will who's home on leave and hadn't seen it yet due to work. He loved it too.

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    « Reply #24 on: January 03, 2017, 12:30:59 AM »
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    All I'm missing is the re-mastered, non-special edition on VHS.
    *looks over at boxed set gathering dust*..

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