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Re: Alien prequel
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2012, 12:53:33 pm »
Well it depends on what is being faithful to the originals.  And its the Prometheus Project - do we know the name of their ship?
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    Re: Alien prequel
    « Reply #51 on: March 20, 2012, 01:06:20 pm »
    I'm tentatively excited about this flick. I'm an Aliens franchise fan and it's been far too long since it had a quality installment (I count A3 as decent).

    I wonder how the aliens figure into the movie? mjolnir1964's video on page two of this thread seemed to show a few flashes of medical type rooms, isolation chambers, etc, so maybe we're seeing is the crew being infected or something?
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    « Reply #52 on: March 20, 2012, 02:59:38 pm »
    I can't wait to see the movie, and hopefully there will be some clarity, but for now I'll speculate.

    It seems possible to me from the previews and the biology of the Space Jockey, that the initial contact of the 'alien' biology may have been shaped by the human interaction into the lethal form we have seen. Canonically the aliens take on attributes from their embryonic hosts and in their most basic form may have been extremely pliable to outside biological influence and mutation. That would also explain their ability to survive nearly anywhere, in nearly any extremes.

    Legitimately I could see the Space Jockey's race as the source of the alien creatures. I think it is possible that the Space Jockey's race uses other biology to continue it's evolution and reproduction maybe, and that the contact with humans causes the resulting biological changes to yield savage, insect like killing machines instead of new Space Jockey babies. Otherwise the crashed ship in the first movie would not have had the dead pilot with the hole in his chest (strikes me as a development the ship designers and pilot were not aware of) and the lack of thousands of dormant eggs in the hold that we saw.

    Then again, I could also see them as the sweepers the Space Jockey's send to a habitable planet to wipe it clean for future colonization. Since such an aggressively invasive species is biologically unsupportable on any world with any ecosystem that works like ours... unless they are from a planet where there is something more vicious that likes acid flavored snack foods. It seems like they are more of a biological weapon or tool than anything else. This also fits with the trailer saying the ship is heading to Earth.

    Just a couple of things I thought about after seeing the trailer but it is merely speculation on my part.
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    Re: Alien prequel
    « Reply #53 on: March 20, 2012, 03:30:29 pm »
    So...

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    « Reply #54 on: March 20, 2012, 06:27:47 pm »
    I've tried all kinds of stuff. No dice.
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    « Reply #55 on: March 21, 2012, 02:37:00 am »
    There's this one too.

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    « Reply #56 on: March 21, 2012, 03:28:52 am »
    "Space Jockey"?

    I always thought he was called "The Navigator" but that's up for interpretation and fandom. I'm not too proud to admit I might be wrong, but it might (in my defense) be a generational thing.

    I'll admit I'm probably mashing stuff together in that regard. Regardless, I think "The Navigator" is a more..."pompous" (?) title for a character we have yet to meet/see. I'm more than willing to admit I might be wrong here with this.

    If the aliens/xenomorphs ARE involved I hope to see a return to the tension inducing gestation cycle.
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    Re: Alien prequel
    « Reply #57 on: March 21, 2012, 03:32:49 am »
    I know I just made a post here, but I thought that a book series I read a while back might be of interest to y'all.

    Imagine if Earth had been infected with the aliens...
    and... that's the essential premise of Steve Perry's trilogy. It's a good read IMHO. Link from Amazon follows for book one...
    http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Hive-Aliens-Book-1/dp/0553561200/ref=pd_sim_b_12
    The book is far from an epic, but I really enjoyed reading it-even if I did it in 3-2-1 fashion.

    Sex, drugs, story, action, realism-it's all there!
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    « Reply #58 on: March 21, 2012, 08:21:46 am »

    I'll admit I'm probably mashing stuff together in that regard. Regardless, I think "The Navigator" is a more..."pompous" (?) title for a character we have yet to meet/see. I'm more than willing to admit I might be wrong here with this.


    I think the word you're looking for is "dignified"?

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    « Reply #59 on: March 21, 2012, 12:02:48 pm »
    I really liked the Dark Horse Alien comics series in which the xenomorphs have ravaged the earth and some crazy general is trying to train a strain of them to fight against the ones on earth. I had hoped that might be the premise of Alien 3, alas twas not so.

    As for the xenomorphs in the upcoming movie, it is my understaning that there will be some and that they are based on the biology of the 'Space Jocky' and therefore are much larger than the human based ones. There will also be a very strong sexual aspect to their behavoir. This info comes from some Ridley Scott interview comments so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    « Reply #60 on: March 21, 2012, 12:28:55 pm »
    I can honestly say that this is the first movie that I have been genuinely excited about in some time.

    I agree the director's cut of Alien 3 is better, but at the end of the day that movie is a result of several re-writes and director changes.
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    « Reply #61 on: March 21, 2012, 12:30:13 pm »


    VG Cats covered that, years ago...

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    « Reply #62 on: March 21, 2012, 01:12:47 pm »
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    « Reply #63 on: March 21, 2012, 01:42:48 pm »
    Oh, he likes you, Burke.

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    « Reply #64 on: March 21, 2012, 04:56:50 pm »
    "Space Jockey"?

    I always thought he was called "The Navigator" but that's up for interpretation and fandom. I'm not too proud to admit I might be wrong, but it might (in my defense) be a generational thing.

    I'll admit I'm probably mashing stuff together in that regard. Regardless, I think "The Navigator" is a more..."pompous" (?) title for a character we have yet to meet/see. I'm more than willing to admit I might be wrong here with this.

    If the aliens/xenomorphs ARE involved I hope to see a return to the tension inducing gestation cycle.

    Honestly I heard it somewhere and it stuck. I have the director's cut of the first 3 movies and I think it was HR Geiger's nickname for him and that's why it sticks with me (I could be so wrong though, I haven't watched the movies in a long time now).

    As far as the Xenomorphs, the humans in the trailer after the SHTF seem to be behaving oddly or aggressively towards each other, gooey, and are otherwise not quite right, so I am sticking to the theory of the human element mucking up something... May have been more of a dinner bell than an invitation.

    Speaking of, why is every sci-fi screenplay of the attitude that intelligent life WANTS to meet us primitive and violent apes? Realistically any spacefaring race much older and more refined than us would either look at us like pets, vermin, or dinner... or maybe all of the above. So why would we rush out half-assed and try to meet them without at least BSG backing us up? They met us once and left us on this mudball, so odds were there was a reason for it.
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    « Reply #65 on: March 21, 2012, 06:02:49 pm »
    I don't know if this video has been posted yet.  Here you go.
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    http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/prometheus-has-landed-another-amazing-trailer-arrives-early/
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    « Reply #66 on: March 21, 2012, 08:36:00 pm »
    Speaking of, why is every sci-fi screenplay of the attitude that intelligent life WANTS to meet us primitive and violent apes? Realistically any spacefaring race much older and more refined than us would either look at us like pets, vermin, or dinner... or maybe all of the above. So why would we rush out half-assed and try to meet them without at least BSG backing us up? They met us once and left us on this mudball, so odds were there was a reason for it.

    If we can make it far enough to interplanetary travel, then we're interesting enough to talk to.  'til then, we're talking dogs or monkeys still playing with our own feces.

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    « Reply #67 on: March 21, 2012, 08:45:30 pm »
    FWIW the basic SPOILERS go like this
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    « Reply #68 on: March 21, 2012, 09:11:37 pm »
    If we can make it far enough to interplanetary travel, then we're interesting enough to talk to.  'til then, we're talking dogs or monkeys still playing with our own feces.



    I see that point, but I guess what I'm thinking is that you can teach an isolated, illiterate tribe of natives to operate a bicycle or an ak-47 but you wouldn't assume the members of Mensa would want them to come to their meeting just because they learned to find the address.

    I would think at best aliens that advanced would like to study us as a fascination, not look at us as equals or to be taken seriously. Of course, I may just be terminally pessimistic.
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    « Reply #69 on: March 21, 2012, 09:17:57 pm »
    I would think at best aliens that advanced would like to study us as a fascination, not look at us as equals or to be taken seriously. Of course, I may just be terminally pessimistic.

    Just like we study isolated primitive tribes.

    Though I am brought to mind a particular Far Side... "Anthropologists! Anthropologists!"

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    « Reply #70 on: March 22, 2012, 02:32:53 am »

    Speaking of, why is every sci-fi screenplay of the attitude that intelligent life WANTS to meet us primitive and violent apes? Realistically any spacefaring race much older and more refined than us would either look at us like pets, vermin, or dinner... or maybe all of the above. So why would we rush out half-assed and try to meet them without at least BSG backing us up? They met us once and left us on this mudball, so odds were there was a reason for it.


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    -Abe Lincoln: Vampire Hunter-I'm not normally a Tim Burton fan, but the premise seems so over-the-FARKING-TOP that I won't resist.

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    « Reply #71 on: March 22, 2012, 09:33:33 am »
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    « Reply #72 on: March 22, 2012, 10:42:35 am »

    The tech level difference between apparently a scientific outfit and a standard freighter isn't so surprising. The Nostromo was an ore carrier, and I'd be willing to bet any company would keep a starship running as long as humanly possible due to the costs.  Difference could be between say, a Southeast Asia tramp freighter and the USS Gerald R. Ford.  Heck, the Sulaco looked a lot more advanced than the Nostromo, and that was a regular troopship.

    All and all, looks very interesting.
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    « Reply #73 on: March 22, 2012, 12:31:38 pm »
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    « Reply #74 on: March 22, 2012, 10:43:43 pm »
    Man I'm so stoked but I'm all alone here. Wife won't see it, my friends won't appreciate it. Any St Louis guys here want to catch this when it comes out?

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