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Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« on: October 25, 2012, 08:09:07 PM »
I am looking for a stick for walking & defense (dogs). I was just wondering whether to buy one or just make on myself. I was looking into a 5' wooden dowel from Oak or hickory. But a guy in the hardware store told me that they wood probably break if used as a weapon... Your thoughts?
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 08:11:18 PM »
Check Cold Steel stuff.
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 08:29:52 PM »
I have a Cold Steel blackthorn but it's a tad too short. Otherwise it's a real thumper and a great deal.

I've made several walking sticks out of oak dowels from Lowe's. I sanded them then stained and sealed them. Haven't broke one yet.

You might check out The Jo staffs here:

http://bujinkanweapons.com/jo-staff/

I've been eyeballing one of their octagonal Jo's for a while.
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 08:34:24 PM »
Also pick white oak over red oak. Red oak is porous and less durable. You can take a piece and suck water or air from one end to the other
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 08:43:18 PM »
Hickory isn't going to break, and neither is hard ash - baseball bats and axe handles alike (most of the breaking bats in MLB are maple - a poor choice, in my opinion).

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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 08:52:45 PM »
I prefer a boom stick.
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 09:06:01 PM »
WOW! Thanks for the info!
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 10:17:03 PM »
I prefer a boom stick.

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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 11:04:55 PM »
russell ftw.   :thumbup1   Using the words exegesis, toady and obsequious in the same post without spelling or syntax errors.    :clap
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 11:59:53 PM »
I have an older City Stick with the stainless steel head and I am confident it would discourage most dogs. I also have a Blackthorn that would probably do as well but is a little too large for my hands. Far and away my favorite is a Cold Steel rattan crook cane. Unfortunately, they don't make that one anymore and I haven't been able to find anything close in quality :(
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 12:42:58 AM »
I have a Cold Steel blackthorn but it's a tad too short. Otherwise it's a real thumper and a great deal.

I've made several walking sticks out of oak dowels from Lowe's. I sanded them then stained and sealed them. Haven't broke one yet.

You might check out The Jo staffs here:

http://bujinkanweapons.com/jo-staff/

I've been eyeballing one of their octagonal Jo's for a while.


Thanks for the info.
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 09:31:00 AM »
I have a Cold Steel escrima stick that would make a good dog stick. I have used it on several occasions to vigorously dispatch snakes in places where gunfire would not have been appropriate. It is a very strong and durable stick.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 09:56:51 AM »
Walking sticks are a viable defensive option and are also a useful tool while hiking.  check out Boyds, if you are going to buy one instead of making one yourself you might as well patronize a company in the gun industry when you do it...and they got some cool color combos too...

http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Walking-Sticks-s/75.htm


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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 11:06:10 AM »
Wow! Great info. Thanks again.
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 12:10:24 PM »
I was looking into a 5' wooden dowel from Oak or hickory, but a guy in the hardware store told me that they wood probably break if used as a weapon... Your thoughts?
I work and live around lots of rough-cut lumber.  To answer your question, I cut three 1x1" pieces of kiln-dried red oak, and smacked them vigorously aginst the concrete floor.  They each broke (shattered) at 6, 1, and 4 strokes, respectively.  I'm not sure how another type of wood would do better or worse, but that is what oak will take.

I would go with one of Cold Steel's 'shatter proof' composite sticks.


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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 01:47:43 PM »
I built my own a number of years ago from nylatron and carbon fiber.  I got the carbon fiber for free as rejects from a shop in Sandy that made wind surf masts.  The nylatron was machined to the OD of the carbon fiber, then had a relief machined to the id and was epoxied in place.  male/female threads were cut to create sections that were hollow, but could be screwed together.  Emergency supplies are stored inside the staff. 

It made quite the kit.  Rope saw, space blanket, first aid kit, fishing kit, compass, fire starter kit were all stored inside.

At the time there was some discussion around trying to commercialize the staff, but that fizzled due to lack of funds and other priorities.

I will try to post some pictures of it tonight.
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Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 09:37:53 PM »
I built my own a number of years ago from nylatron and carbon fiber.  I got the carbon fiber for free as rejects from a shop in Sandy that made wind surf masts.  The nylatron was machined to the OD of the carbon fiber, then had a relief machined to the id and was epoxied in place.  male/female threads were cut to create sections that were hollow, but could be screwed together.  Emergency supplies are stored inside the staff. 

It made quite the kit.  Rope saw, space blanket, first aid kit, fishing kit, compass, fire starter kit were all stored inside.

At the time there was some discussion around trying to commercialize the staff, but that fizzled due to lack of funds and other priorities.

I will try to post some pictures of it tonight.

Sounds like a great kit. Too bad it didn't get off the ground.


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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 09:58:43 AM »
@coelacanth : Thanks!

I blame it on two things, reading too much 17th, 18th and 19th century literature and still riding a high from a monster workout at the gym  :)

@sqlbullet: That does sound like a really solid kit. Have you tried to reach out with the idea to companies already manufacturing survival gear and pitching the idea to them?
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Re: Sticks for Walking & Defense from dogs.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 12:51:09 PM »
Last couple of days I've been forced to use a cane.
I use a Cold Steel African Walking Stick or whatever is called.  I put a rubber grommet on he bottom and used a torch to round off the sharp edges of the knobby end.
Makes for a fine cane. 
And it can serve as a devastating impact weapon. 
I tested it on a windshield once.  Shattered the windshield better than an aluminum bat.

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2012, 09:45:12 PM »
Last couple of days I've been forced to use a cane.
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Likewise, for the last 2 weeks anyway.   another meniscus tear, this time in the right knee,  3 years ago it was the left.   anyway,  I've got a nice Oak cane with a heavy brass horsehead that was left to me by my mother in law.   light enough to move quickly, but the head piece is a respectable chunk of metal that just happens to come close to a fairly decent point. 

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