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Koppo Sticks
« on: September 06, 2012, 01:12:10 AM »
I was impressed with information Dot4x4 shared in a previous thread about koppo sticks.
http://www.donrearic.com/koppostick.html
http://www.donrearic.com/koppostick2.html
With material on hand I turned out a couple in the garage.  The first one went out the door to a friend before I took pictures.  Here is the second.  It is 51/2" x 1/2" x 5/8" made from black HDPE plate turned on the lathe, and 550 cord.  The holes in the end allow attachment of a key ring.  It is very light, with a slim profile.
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 01:38:52 AM »
Like it! Glad to see a picture. Now how about turning a true mace?  :neener
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 02:35:13 AM »
I like it.  Definitely looks harmless enough. 

I wonder... Is the material strong enough to counter sink the holes for the paracord so they would be recessed? Would look much cleaner.
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 07:41:07 AM »
Very nice. Now I have to make one tomorrow
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 09:36:59 AM »
I am still trying to come up with something that allows the cord to be secure but easily adjustable.  What fits my hand snugly is incredibly loose on my wife's hands.  I have plans to try some other materials, but this was on the shelf.  Took a couple of hacks at a 2x8 with it, and put some respectable dents in the wood without ill effect to me or the stick.
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 09:40:38 AM »
nice. I like the idea of the paracord loop.
I still carry my Kuboton's,   I have 2 (made by Monadnock) and the wife has a nice purple heart wooden one that Sensei made for her.
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 11:48:38 AM »
Daylight, next time your at a store that carries shoe lace's try to find some of the stretchy "no tie" laces that are designed for kids.  (I can't remember the name) They will look like tight "pig tail" curls.  They will be ok for the Wife and not be too tight for your fingers.  The finger loop doesn't need to be very tight (I always preferred mine looser for comfort).  If used in a defense situation you will be making a fist with it in your hand, the loop is just for keeping it in place while carrying something like a grocery bag or purse for the ladies (and allot of guys in CA. with a "Murse").  It also keeps the tool (not weapon) in your hand for control holds and grappling. 
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 12:04:10 PM »
Elastic band, with a fishing weight sewn into it to keep it from being pulled through.

Thick-ass ponytail band... keep that and a tactical pen in your pocket.

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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 01:09:58 PM »
Paint it pink.  With a kid's curly stretchy shoelace through it nobody will give it a second look.   ;)
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 04:38:09 PM »
Couple of related reads, both by Phil Elmore who does The Maritalist web site and has studied with these things for a long time...

http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/get-this-weapon-before-obama-bans-it/
http://themartialist.net/?p=2322

Wish I could find a course to teach me how to properly use one, just this particular item hands on, don't want to commit to learning an entire fighting style...
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2012, 09:01:16 PM »
Huey, learn pressure points and general anatomy.  Think of any point on the body that does not have alot of "meat" on it.  Hands, elbow joints, collar bones, back of the hands and underside of wrists etc... Also you can use the tip of the koppo to grab an ear and use your thumb to pinch it.  The Koppo is held in an "ice pick" grip so you can use a hammer fist to strike pressure points or even large muscles. 

A dedicated hard strike using a hammer fist to the outside of the thigh will render that leg pretty much useless.  If someone grabs you, take the point and "grind" it into the back of the hand or underside of the wrist, combine that with a strike and grind and the hand is pretty much useless.  Another great strike is a "rib rake".  Start at an angle under the arm, striking into or below the armpit.  Continue driving the point down the rib cage.  You can see how that would work. 

Everyone knows how elbows, shoulders, hands and knees work.  Use the point (either side) of the Koppo to anchor in by hooking or just slamming it into the joint.  Then use the opposite hand to move that joint in the opposite direction that it normally goes.  You just learned the general idea of a joint lock. 

When I was teaching self defense classes to hospital workers I didn't use allot of "defense terms" I explained everything as "Body mechanics".  You want to move a torso in a certain direction, the arms, legs and neck are just levers to get you there. 

An easy way to find the sensitive points is just take a mini-mag and LIGHTLY tap along your own body.  You will know when you get a good spot. 
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2012, 12:03:44 AM »
I made this tonight out of a plastic dowel and 550 cord. As suggested, I counter sunk the bottom holes to hide the knots. I still need to smooth over the ends

I have to trek to Lowe's tomorrow for a new grinder so I'll pick up some oak dowels too for some nicer koppos. I used to carry an oak koppo as a rookie until our liberal chief at the time made me stop.

 

 

 
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 01:10:39 AM »
Nice.  How did it work on duty when you were carrying one Sarge ?
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Koppo Sticks
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2012, 06:45:07 AM »
Thanks dot4x4
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2012, 07:30:08 AM »
Nice.  How did it work on duty when you were carrying one Sarge ?


It was very effective the few times I used it. I pressed hard on a guy's forearm (radial) mound with it to make him let go of his brother's hair and I used it in a wrist come-along a couple of times. I never punched with it though and never slammed the tip into a hand or muscle group. It would be devastating in the latter role
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2012, 12:43:11 AM »
Made one out of a white oak dowel for my best friend Joshua who works our casino enforcement unit.

 
I dremeled his last name, Taylor, in Cherokee syllabary. Its pronounced "Te-La" in Cherokee. I also counter sunk the holes to hide the knots

 
Finished it with brown shoe polish and buffed it to a shine with an old UnderArmor t-shirt

 
Joshua is 6'03"/280lbs and has huge mitts which is why it sticks out so far on either side of my fist



 


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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 05:23:53 PM »
NICE  :thumbup1
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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 10:18:42 PM »
The only thing I would suggest would be rounding the ends to hemispheres, so that the contact surface is always a point.

Other'n that, looks good.

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Re: Koppo Sticks
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2012, 02:24:11 PM »
Want.
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