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Re: I find the lack of sharp pointy stabby objects to be disturbing
« Reply #175 on: February 15, 2016, 05:01:21 PM »
Its really amazing how many "kitchen" knives found their way into the kit of mountain men, pioneers, soldiers, miners and all manner of people bound for and living on the "frontier".   A close look at the classic Russel "Green River" knives and many others from that time frame reveals a lot in common with both historic and contemporary kitchen knives - especially those used in commercial food service applications. 

I will agree that the classic "Bowie Knife" is a better choice when it comes down to using it as a weapon but I would hate to think what could be done with a big chef's knife in the hands of someone who spent every day carrying and using a short, stout sword like the Roman spatha.  :panic   I get the feeling a Roman centurion thus armed could pretty well filet a whole alley full of today's "gangstas".    Just sayin' . . .  :hmm

Thanks for that image  :shocked. Now I imagine fine cooking ware, Togas, and downtown L.A. .
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Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: I find the lack of sharp pointy stabby objects to be disturbing
    « Reply #176 on: February 15, 2016, 05:04:05 PM »
    Relax - its all in your head.   Over and over and over again .   .   .   muahahaha.   :cool
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    « Reply #177 on: February 15, 2016, 05:15:52 PM »
    Speaking of designs with hilts

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    Re: I find the lack of sharp pointy stabby objects to be disturbing
    « Reply #178 on: February 15, 2016, 05:30:32 PM »
    And just in case you like your blades thick, here is a custom made Bowie with 5/8 thickness

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    « Reply #179 on: February 15, 2016, 07:08:20 PM »
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    Very wide file. Stacked leather washer handle and Honduran rosewood.
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    Re: I find the lack of sharp pointy stabby objects to be disturbing
    « Reply #180 on: February 15, 2016, 10:19:59 PM »
    I love that... has a brutal grace to it. 
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    « Reply #181 on: February 16, 2016, 05:09:45 AM »
    That is crazy sexy.
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    « Reply #182 on: February 16, 2016, 10:43:19 PM »
    5/8 thick?! Sweet baby Jesus why? I cannot think of any instance ever for a cutting tool wielded by human hands to be that thick
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    « Reply #183 on: February 16, 2016, 11:16:03 PM »
    Agreed.  You don't need a sheath to carry that thing - more like a sword belt. 
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    « Reply #184 on: February 16, 2016, 11:44:24 PM »
    5/8 thick?! Sweet baby Jesus why? I cannot think of any instance ever for a cutting tool wielded by human hands to be that thick

    I hear it's decent at chopping though  :coffee.

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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #185 on: February 16, 2016, 11:48:45 PM »
    I hear it's decent at chopping though  :coffee.

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    Nope.  :neener

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    « Reply #186 on: February 22, 2016, 10:23:32 PM »
    Here's the craziest coolest bayonet evar: the M-1900 Krag Bowie bayonet. Amazing. Imagine it locked onto a Krag rifle and on the offensive or even just gripped in a the fist of a charging soldier. the write-ups I read say it had a fragile tip and while impressive looking, wasn't very good as bayonets go.



    That's some wicked looking stuff. And it can be yours for a mere $3499 on gunbroker.com

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Bayonets/BI.aspx?Keywords=Krag


    Another cool bayonet is the new USMC Bowie bayonet by Ontario that my son gave me for my birthday last year. It's a sweet beast. Darn near indestructible

     

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    « Reply #187 on: February 22, 2016, 10:56:28 PM »
    Here's the craziest coolest bayonet evar: the M-1900 Krag Bowie bayonet. Amazing. Imagine it locked onto a Krag rifle and on the offensive or even just gripped in a the fist of a charging soldier. the write-ups I read say it had a fragile tip and while impressive looking, wasn't very good as bayonets go.



    That's some wicked looking stuff. And it can be yours for a mere $3499 on gunbroker.com

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Bayonets/BI.aspx?Keywords=Krag


    Another cool bayonet is the new USMC Bowie bayonet by Ontario that my son gave me for my birthday last year. It's a sweet beast. Darn near indestructible

     

    Ontario makes some good blades  :thumbup1.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #188 on: March 01, 2016, 01:38:43 AM »
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    « Reply #189 on: March 02, 2016, 01:35:44 AM »
    From: Dadan Sudjati, handle made by Dadan Hamdani

    Sheath material made from local iron wood, handle made of Buffalo horn insert on duralium. This monster is made of D2 Steel and it is big!

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    « Reply #190 on: March 03, 2016, 12:25:08 AM »
    Looks like an old Italian butcher's cleaver I had once. 
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    « Reply #191 on: March 03, 2016, 09:18:11 PM »
    From: Dadan Sudjati, handle made by Dadan Hamdani

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    « Reply #192 on: March 04, 2016, 08:54:16 PM »
    Just got a CRKT Hissatsu to try as a back-up or "Get off me" blade if an attacker is trying to take my sidearm.

    As a side note the state instructor in a recent defensive combatives refresher did not like my take on resisting an attacker hell bent on taking my gun. He showed some highly suspect moves for that. My solution was to cut him off of me, especially if he's larger than I am. I had a couple of examples of officers in recent years who had done just that and were ruled justified by the prosecutor or grand jury. One was in Washington state and the other was in Ohio.

    I love the grip and design. It's sole design is close combat and not outdoor use or survival. It has an excellent balance and feels light in hand as I rotate it from forward to reverse grip.







    It's a bit long and I've had to angle it to ride right under my duty belt.



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    Re: I find the lack of sharp pointy stabby objects to be disturbing
    « Reply #193 on: March 04, 2016, 09:17:30 PM »
    Sarge is the grip good enuf to function well with no hilt on it? It looks like a good shape for it being skinny in the middle and flared towards the ends.

    Also what is a police officer supposed to do at severe close range? Grapple/throws? Blunt force weapons lose some effectiveness right up close so I assumed it was blade time just like most of the self defense I have taken. I do understand an officer is in a different scenario than a plain ole Joe. 
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    « Reply #194 on: March 04, 2016, 10:01:23 PM »
    Just got a CRKT Hissatsu to try as a back-up or "Get off me" blade if an attacker is trying to take my sidearm.

    As a side note the state instructor in a recent defensive combatives refresher did not like my take on resisting an attacker hell bent on taking my gun. He showed some highly suspect moves for that. My solution was to cut him off of me, especially if he's larger than I am. I had a couple of examples of officers in recent years who had done just that and were ruled justified by the prosecutor or grand jury. One was in Washington state and the other was in Ohio.

    I love the grip and design. It's sole design is close combat and not outdoor use or survival. It has an excellent balance and feels light in hand as I rotate it from forward to reverse grip.

    Goodness :o, what does he expect you to do? Doesn't he know 1 out of every 5 officers gets shot with their own gun (or some statistic like that)? No sir, resisting sounds like the only logical thing to do when someone wants to take your gun and shoot you with it.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #195 on: March 04, 2016, 10:33:42 PM »
    Sarge is the grip good enuf to function well with no hilt on it? It looks like a good shape for it being skinny in the middle and flared towards the ends.

    Also what is a police officer supposed to do at severe close range? Grapple/throws? Blunt force weapons lose some effectiveness right up close so I assumed it was blade time just like most of the self defense I have taken. I do understand an officer is in a different scenario than a plain ole Joe. 

    Yes, the grip is exceptionally "grippy." I'm on record here stating I dislike a blade with no hilt but this is one exception.

    The instructor is just toeing the state academy line. As both Q and strangelittleman can attest, the state of NC is charging headlong into the 1950's with their LE and Corrections training, especially in combatives.
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    « Reply #196 on: March 04, 2016, 10:56:51 PM »
    Yes, the grip is exceptionally "grippy." I'm on record here stating I dislike a blade with no hilt but this is one exception.

    The instructor is just toeing the state academy line. As both Q and strangelittleman can attest, the state of NC is charging headlong into the 1950's with their LE and Corrections training, especially in combatives.

    I thought the 1950's was supportive of apprehending bad guys....  :scrutiny.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #197 on: March 04, 2016, 11:17:01 PM »
    Nice knife Sarge, good choice.
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    « Reply #198 on: March 09, 2016, 12:38:07 AM »
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    By: Spencer Aplin @ http://stacustomknives.com/

    Blade steel is s35vn ,hardware is nickel silver and the handle is stabilized maple burl.

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