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Re: Military maneuvers startle already-stressed UND campus
« Reply #125 on: April 29, 2016, 04:11:46 pm »
Dude... Can't get the SQRT of infinity...

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    Re: Military maneuvers startle already-stressed UND campus
    « Reply #126 on: April 29, 2016, 04:53:33 pm »
     I really don't care which bathroom he takes a s___ in, so long as it's not next to me.

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    Re: Military maneuvers startle already-stressed UND campus
    « Reply #127 on: April 30, 2016, 01:40:00 am »
    I agree.

    So, why did the NC legislature feel it was so Earth shatteringly important that they had to spend $42k for a special weekend session to pass the fluffing thing?
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    But I do have to bring up a point.

    Laws have been passed in 3 or 4 states, that are squarely aimed to discriminate against a certain portion of society.

    Doesn't matter if it's left handed red heads, blacks, or gays, that ain't right.  Just like a person shouldn't have to drink from a separate water fountain because of the color of his skin, they shouldn't have to show an ID or drop trou just to use a public restroom.
    I have lived most of my life without anyone around me, including the court system and the legislature, feeling the need to address the issue of who uses which restroom.  I have even witnessed and been a part of acts of collusion on the part of people who desperately needed to use a  bathroom - any bathroom - and were forced to use the first available facility regardless of the sign on the door.  It usually involved a scout to make sure the available facility was vacant and then to stand guard at the door in case of an impending encounter of the embarrassing kind.  No harm, no foul as far as anybody was concerned.  Logic and reason held sway, people's needs were met without further incident and we all went about our business without another thought about it.   

    We understood that the place where the restrooms were had separate facilities for men and women as a courtesy and a commitment to the idea of public sanitation.  No one is required to have a public restroom at all, much less two of them.   People with children were allowed to use the first available facility as the need of the child dictated - not the sign on the door.  Again, logic, reason and common courtesy were the hallmarks of our interactions with each other and in all my life I cannot recall an incident where those things failed us regarding the use of restrooms - public or private. 

    That all changed when the vanishingly small percentage of people in the population who cannot or will not accept the facts of their genetic make up decided to inflict their particular form of insanity on the rest of us.  That they did so with the help of people who would gladly take their money and tell them whatever it was that they desperately wanted to hear is a topic for another thread but suffice it to say that greed is a powerful motivator.   Slowly but surely what was once seen as a mild disorder among a tiny percentage of our population became an all encompassing discussion about the "rights" of that minority without regard to the "rights" of those without that particular affliction.  Militancy met apathy with predictable results and now we live in a society where court systems and legislatures feel compelled to take a stand on an issue that a mere century ago could not have been explained to anyone without them thinking the narrator had lost his/her mind. 

    I find no evidence, compelling or otherwise that any law has been passed in any state or other subdivision of our various governments that intentionally targets the group in question for any sort of discrimination.   What I do find is groups of people who are increasingly devoid of any consideration for their fellow man causing all sorts of previously unimaginable problems and demanding "justice".  That is a word that gets thrown about quite a bit these days by people who are primarily concerned that their narrow view of an issue-any issue- is the only acceptable outcome and the rest of society can either get used to it or suffer the consequences.   

    We are far from a perfect society but we've done pretty well over time at correcting our most egregious faults.  You may not agree with that view but you can't argue with the fact that ours is perhaps the only society that has ever existed where our success allows us to devote the amount of time, energy and resources we do to utter nonsense like this. 
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    Re: Military maneuvers startle already-stressed UND campus
    « Reply #128 on: April 30, 2016, 02:13:35 am »
    and, I have lived most of my life without anyone around me, including the court system and the legislature, feeling the need to address the issue of who uses which restroom.  I have even witnessed and been a part of acts of collusion on the part of people who desperately needed to use a  bathroom - any bathroom - and were forced to use the first available facility regardless of the sign on the door.  It usually involved a scout to make sure the available facility was vacant and then to stand guard at the door in case of an impending encounter of the embarrassing kind.  No harm, no foul as far as anybody was concerned.  Logic and reason held sway, people's needs were met without further incident and we all went about our business without another thought about it.   

    We understood that the place where the restrooms were had separate facilities for men and women as a courtesy and a commitment to the idea of public sanitation.  No one is required to have a public restroom at all, much less two of them.   People with children were allowed to use the first available facility as the need of the child dictated - not the sign on the door.  Again, logic, reason and common courtesy were the hallmarks of our interactions with each other and in all my life I cannot recall an incident where those things failed us regarding the use of restrooms - public or private. 

    That all changed when the vanishingly small percentage of people in the population who cannot or will not accept the facts of their genetic make up decided to inflict their particular form of insanity on the rest of us.  That they did so with the help of people who would gladly take their money and tell them whatever it was that they desperately wanted to hear is a topic for another thread but suffice it to say that greed is a powerful motivator.   Slowly but surely what was once seen as a mild disorder among a tiny percentage of our population became an all encompassing discussion about the "rights" of that minority without regard to the "rights" of those without that particular affliction.  Militancy met apathy with predictable results and now we live in a society where court systems and legislatures feel compelled to take a stand on an issue that a mere century ago could not have been explained to anyone without them thinking the narrator had lost his/her mind. 

    I find no evidence, compelling or otherwise that any law has been passed in any state or other subdivision of our various governments that intentionally targets the group in question for any sort of discrimination.   What I do find is groups of people who are increasingly devoid of any consideration for their fellow man causing all sorts of previously unimaginable problems and demanding "justice".  That is a word that gets thrown about quite a bit these days by people who are primarily concerned that their narrow view of an issue-any issue- is the only acceptable outcome and the rest of society can either get used to it or suffer the consequences.   

    We are far from a perfect society but we've done pretty well over time at correcting our most egregious faults.  You may not agree with that view but you can't argue with the fact that ours is perhaps the only society that has ever existed where our success allows us to devote the amount of time, energy and resources we do to utter nonsense like this. 

    Agreed.

    If this was a bathroom issue, don't care.  Make them all unisex, I DON'T CARE.

    Where I do care is where these laws are being applied to locker/shower rooms.  Seattle area YMCA's are allowing anyone into which ever locker room they want.   Pee where ever you want, but when little kids are showering/changing then I have issues.  Yes I do keep an eye out when my kid, male, is in the shower/locker room.  I do not go into the locker room with him every time, but I do do surprise drop ins.  Not looking at junk, but for anyone with obvious interest and especially for anyone taking pictures. 
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    Re: Military maneuvers startle already-stressed UND campus
    « Reply #129 on: May 03, 2016, 09:00:15 pm »
    I feel a strange sense of irony here. People more conservative than myself are worried about safety in bathrooms, that is the reason they are fighting said transgender bathroom law. Yet this young transgender man says that he feels unsafe using the bathroom of his marked gender around said gender :scrutiny.

    https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/trans-teens-selfie-target-bathroom-172800132.html

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