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Iran's new Jet
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2013, 06:36:18 PM »
The intakes are too small as well.

And where they are would be highly suceptible to being starved of air at higher AOA I suspect
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2013, 06:56:48 PM »


Very clever, those Persians....................

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2013, 12:12:56 AM »
I'll start worrying when Iran can get their real aircraft off the ground for anything mpre strenuous than a pilot proficiency hop.

It could be credible, though. For all the amazing gadgets and gizmos we have, aircraft can sneek by radar and nail you when you least expect it. Even if Iranian low-observable tech is two decades behind ours, a small enough aircraft with radar absortive coatings will be extremely difficult to pick up. Take that same aircraft, throw it down into ground clutter and hide it inside of a mountin valley and you have a jet that is virtually undetectable to radar and so small that you probably won't see it until you pick up the missile plume from the Archer that it just shot at you. Our aggressor squadron at Top Gun has been doing just that for decades using F-5's and they kill us A LOT in training. Even with really short legs and a pretty damn big radar cross signature, they do pretty good work. This thing may look like a toy, but that doesn't mean it can't be effective.

Of course, our agressor pilots are pretty savy guys with lots of experience. Still...
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Re: Iran's new Jet
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2013, 12:26:29 PM »
I love this pic:
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What do we notice about the construction of the fuselage and the area where the canopy would presumably seal?

The last job the builders had was probably making fiberglass shower stalls.
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2013, 12:49:02 PM »
I love this pic:
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What do we notice about the construction of the fuselage and the area where the canopy would presumably seal?

The last job the builders had was probably making fiberglass shower stalls.


Just below that screen disappearing off the left side of the picture - Is that an eight-track music player?
You'd think a fifth-generation stealth fighter could manage an iPod dock. They could use the iPod they stole from the Royal Navy.
Even my Ford Focus can manage a CD player. Sturdier construction too.
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2013, 02:16:02 PM »


The avionics look legit, if unimpressive. Note that there doesn't seem to be anything resembling a Radar or fire control.
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Re: Iran's new Jet
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2013, 02:40:59 PM »
I love that the aircraft is 100% Iranian-built. Using Garmin electronics. I had no idea my GPS was Iranian.

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Re: Iran's new Jet
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2013, 03:26:55 PM »
When I was really small, my grandfather made me a cockpit out of scraps of lumber and plastic and junk electronics (he did small device electrical repair for spare cash). If he were alive today and I were 5, I think he would make me something very much like that.

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« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2013, 04:49:53 PM »
When I was really small, my grandfather made me a cockpit out of scraps of lumber and plastic and junk electronics (he did small device electrical repair for spare cash). If he were alive today and I were 5, I think he would make me something very much like that.

I doubt it.  He probably would have made something more realistic looking.
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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2013, 05:42:33 PM »
Future Israeli Air Force meme to its fighter pilots concerning Qaher-313 engagement: "It doesn't count unless it's a gun kill."
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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2013, 11:13:52 PM »
How does the pilot reach the switches that are positioned behind his elbows?

 :hmm

This is just crap.
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« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2013, 11:55:31 PM »
Like I said, no matter if it were the real deal, it'd still be manned by an Iranian pilot.

I loved the unmanned bomber Mamba.

IMO we need to tease and joke Islamic radicals to death. They have no sense of humor and Americans are masters of rude, inappropriate jokes and pranks and we could force them into self-destruction. In the least they would be so angry they would screw up even more than usual and riot themselves into a stupor.
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2013, 12:55:25 AM »
The US- been building aeroplanes since 1903, had jet powered fighters and bombers over 50 years ago, and stealth aircraft over 30 years ago.

Iran- Can't even build something that'll actually fly, nor keep what they have purchased in the air for the most part.

I don't know which one is lamer- N. Korea or Iran.

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I should hope not. Mobs of rogue woodworking tools would suck to repel.

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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2013, 01:18:29 AM »
TL;DR

What I find amazing is they made this, but they can't keep the F-14's we sold them in the air. They have a squadron worth of Tomcats that haven't flown in 30 years since we cut off their parts supply. They couldn't reverse engineer their own spares, but the can organic a whole airplane?

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Re: Iran's new Jet
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2013, 08:57:01 AM »
TL;DR

What I find amazing is they made this, but they can't keep the F-14's we sold them in the air. They have a squadron worth of Tomcats that haven't flown in 30 years since we cut off their parts supply. They couldn't reverse engineer their own spares, but the can organic a whole airplane?



Not just the F-14s but the other stuff they have- F4s, F-5s, C-130s, etc
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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2013, 09:41:58 AM »
Iran- Can't even build something that'll actually fly, nor keep what they have purchased in the air for the most part.

I don't know which one is lamer- N. Korea or Iran.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_North_Korea

N Korea has a GDP of $40 billion. Iran has an GDP (PPP) of $1T.
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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2013, 09:46:00 AM »
Yeah, but if Iran wasn't sitting on a pile of oil, their economy would be bupkis.

Also hard to compare a country the size of the old CSA to N. Korea, which is like the size of Massachusetts.
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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2013, 09:55:26 AM »
Yeah, but if Iran wasn't sitting on a pile of oil, their economy would be bupkis.

Also hard to compare a country the size of the old CSA to N. Korea, which is like the size of Massachusetts.

25% of their GDP is oil and natural gas.

And no, it's not. GDP per capita.

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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2013, 08:09:50 PM »
Well, yeah, but you didn't do that.

Iran, pop. 75m, per catipa GDP, minus petrol=$10,000

Norks, pop 24m, per capita GDP=$1667

Now, the Iranians have only had half as much time as the Norks to destroy their economy by isolating themselves.

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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 04:01:38 AM »
I think it's cool, for the next Batman movie.
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2013, 11:50:31 AM »
This is the country that STILL can't even make a decent copy of an M-16A1 or a G-3.
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