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Re: Congressional shooting
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2017, 04:08:32 PM »
Actually, I think Ms. Haley's doing a good job so far.

With regards to the rest of your list: yeah, pretty much.  Or Carson to run HUD. Dude's a brain surgeon (and by all accounts, a good one). Let him go back to it, or put him on the taskforce dealing with TrumpCare.

The Republican Party has been so busy defunding and decrying public education they haven't tried to see what needs to be done to fix it.  DeVos got the job because she gave cash. Pure and simple.

Rick Perry didn't *even know what the DOE did* when he was calling for it to be defunded. Turns out keeping an eye on our nuclear stores may be a good idea...

And nominating a wedding planner to handle NYC HUD division? There's no way in hell she is qualified to do that.

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    « Reply #26 on: June 16, 2017, 04:26:19 PM »
    Fine... but can we get Ajit Pai (FCC head) out of the country please?
    That disingenuous little snot makes me worried my internet package will wind up as close to a cable package as comcast can make it. :vomit

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    Re: Congressional shooting
    « Reply #27 on: June 16, 2017, 04:49:42 PM »
    Oy, I was trying to forget about him...  :facepalm

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    « Reply #28 on: June 16, 2017, 08:13:19 PM »
    Yep Carson, being brought up by a single mother in the very environment he is now in charge of, and being REALLY smart, has no qualifications to run HUD (which apparently has lost more money above and beyond what they were budgeted in the past, according to the outside auditors that were brought in - to be fair, the auditors couldn't really give a conclusive report, because HUD's documentation is so bad or missing or not turned over by HUD).  He ASKED to be put in charge of HUD, instead of something related to medicine.


    People who have dealt with the regulatory bodies because they are involved in the areas being regulated, ARE the most qualified to run those regulatory bodies.  DeVos has contributed millions of dollars to education in Michigan, and she has kids that went through private schools (which are only marginally better than private schools).  The first isn't a big qualification, other than putting your money where your mouth is, and anyone who has dealt with kids in schools is qualified to run the Dept of Education.


    And of course Justice Gorsuch is massively unqualified, just look at his record [sarcasm].


    Once again, a liberal has gone off the deep end and shot up a bunch of people.  The next such event should be a follower of the religion of peace.
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    « Reply #29 on: June 16, 2017, 09:28:33 PM »
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/exclusive-assassination-list-found-on-james-hodgkinsons-body/

    FBI is saying they recovered a list with the names of at least six Republican politicians from the shooter's pocket. I'd say that pretty well rules out this being an random shooting and confirms what we all knew (or at least strongly suspected) already: this was a deliberate assassination attempt.
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    Re: Congressional shooting
    « Reply #30 on: June 16, 2017, 11:20:43 PM »
    Retrogrouch - by that logic, I could put millions into the NRA, my kid through a few firearms classes, and be qualified to run the NRA or the Army.


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    « Reply #31 on: June 16, 2017, 11:40:52 PM »
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/exclusive-assassination-list-found-on-james-hodgkinsons-body/

    FBI is saying they recovered a list with the names of at least six Republican politicians from the shooter's pocket. I'd say that pretty well rules out this being an random shooting and confirms what we all knew (or at least strongly suspected) already: this was a deliberate assassination attempt.
    Yup.  48 hours after a targeted assassination attempt on members of Congress and the lead news story is "Mike Pence gets a lawyer!" . 

    Nothing to see here.  Move along.  None of the targets were actually killed and after all, they were just Republicans.    :coffee
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    « Reply #32 on: June 16, 2017, 11:55:28 PM »
    Retrogrouch - by that logic, I could put millions into the NRA, my kid through a few firearms classes, and be qualified to run the NRA or the Army.


    Wouldn't qualify you for running the Army but being in charge of overseeing the NRA's educational programs, sure.
    At the cabinet level they're making policy decisions and managing people under them, not doing the grunt work.
    Bringing in outsiders who haven't come up through the ranks of the stagnant bureaucracies you're trying to clean up is a smart move.   

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    « Reply #33 on: June 16, 2017, 11:59:10 PM »
    Yup.  48 hours after a targeted assassination attempt on members of Congress and the lead news story current Democratic PR campaign is "Mike Pence gets a lawyer!" . 
    FTFY ;)
    Nothing to see here.  Move along.  None of the targets were actually killed and after all, they were just Republicans.    :coffee
    Well, the Democrats do try to avoid reminding people of when their plans failed.....

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    « Reply #34 on: June 17, 2017, 12:34:42 AM »


    We cross a line - a really big line - when we start shooting people on account of their differing political views.  If this becomes a trend... Then the snowball has started down the mountain.


    Ah, crap.  :facepalm
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    « Reply #35 on: June 17, 2017, 06:05:38 PM »
    Thinking of the number of times I've been cutoff by jackasses in large trucks, I'm going to put political motivations on this one at 50/50 with simple road rage.  :coffee

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    « Reply #36 on: June 17, 2017, 06:56:49 PM »
    Yeah, the last road trip we made to Nebraska almost ended early when a Knight Trucking driver didn't bother to check his rearview mirror before he attempted a lane change on I-70.  (And yes, I could see his rearview mirror, so he COULD see me, he just didn't bother to look!)

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    « Reply #37 on: June 18, 2017, 04:14:21 AM »
    Yeah, the last road trip we made to Nebraska almost ended early when a Knight Trucking driver didn't bother to check his rearview mirror before he attempted a lane change on I-70.  (And yes, I could see his rearview mirror, so he COULD see me, he just didn't bother to look!)
    It happens.   
    That guy is going to drive somewhere between 600 and 700 miles every day for nearly 330 days out of the year.   
    Any idea how many times he's going to change lanes?    Mistakes do happen.
    Any idea how often people driving cars fail to check before changing lanes?  :coffee

    The accident rate per mile driven is dramatically lower for commercial drivers compared to non-commercial drivers.



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    Re: Congressional shooting
    « Reply #38 on: June 18, 2017, 10:52:29 AM »
    On the way home from Asheville a decade or two ago, watched in my rearview as a semi forced a Mazda sedan into the median.

    Mazda guy did a remarkable job of keeping his car in control.

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    « Reply #39 on: June 19, 2017, 11:12:39 AM »
    On the way home from Asheville a decade or two ago, watched in my rearview as a semi forced a Mazda sedan into the median.

    Mazda guy did a remarkable job of keeping his car in control.
    No doubt.  As I said, mistakes happen.  The more miles you drive the more opportunities you have to screw up, but that gets tempered by the skills accumulated with all the practice resulting from driving the equivalent to 7 trips around the Earth's equator each year.   
    Ask any commercial driver with more than a few years behind the wheel as to how many times cars have passed them on the right,  cut them off, pulled out in front o them, tailgated, or just plain swerved into the truck.   

    You do get idiot's with CDLs  but they tend to be weeded out of the industry, getting forced in to every lower paying jobs with desperate companies until they're gone.     Sort of what I suspect happens with Rambo wanna-be's who get into LE. 


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    « Reply #40 on: June 21, 2017, 12:38:04 PM »
    . . . and nominations of people who really are not qualified to do the job they've been nominated for.

    Presidents for time immemorial have been appointing their largely unqualified political friends to cabinet positions.  Nothing new there in general.  What is new is that these appointees come largely with vast business or governmental management experience, such as CEOs, state governors with records of budgetary efficiency, and such.

    His most important nominee, approved by the Senate and now serving for a lifetime, is Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. 

    While one on the left might quibble with his position as more of a strict constructionist, original founder's intent Constitutionalist (something most of us here would applaud), no one can argue with a straight face that he is not extraordinarily well-qualified.

    As to cabinet appointees:  Cabinet members come and go.  Most of us don't even know the names of those who served in most of the positions in former administrations (unless they engage in illegal gun running to Mexico that gets Boarder Patrol officers killed).

    Those departments are largely full of career bureaucrats who do need to know "how to make the train run on time".  But someone has to set overall policy. The cabinet level position exists to bring the department, as a component of the Executive branch, into compliance with the policy of the President.   

    It is serving the policy objectives of the President that matters, not whether the person is a wonk on the nuts and bolts, administratively.  Many of these appointees are highly successful business executives who know when something works or not and how  to get things done.  The CEO of a Fortune 500 company making automobiles, or construction equipment or such, does not need to know how to grind the crankshaft in the engine or how to align the door panels.  He knows how to fire those who do not carry out the objectives of the company and how to replace them with people who do.  This is management.   A business approach is long overdue, IMHO.
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    « Reply #41 on: June 23, 2017, 10:52:29 PM »
    Well said.   :thumbup1
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