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Black Bear Flashlights
« on: February 19, 2011, 11:57:34 PM »
George, we were talking about this over dinner, so here's the link: Black Bear Flashlights.  Basically, he guts a Maglite and turns it into a 1000+ lumen rechargable super light.  He's also making a 350 lumen rechargable weapon light now.  It's not on the website, but he'll send you the specs if you email him.  Here's what I got in the mail:

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MY NEW LIGHTS
350 LUMENS WEAPON LIGHT
AND 350 LUMENS 5 FUNCTION LAMP, FLASHLIGHT.

MORE INFORMATION
I have the  flashlight in glossy anodized for $135 including charger and shipping, your options are flat bezel or crenellated bezel
another option: the 5 level lamp or the 1 level (straight 350 lumens)
 
OR
the matte black anodized for $145, bezel in this one is fluted (no crenellated) or flat,
same options on the lamp, (please let me know)

 
WEAPON LIGHT (WITH PRESSURE PAD SWITCH AND LEVER RING MOUNT) ARE $175 FOR THE GLOSSY ANODIZED OR $185 FOR THE HARD ANODIZED FLAT BLACK.
WEAPON LIGHTS USE THE 1 LEVEL 350 LUMENS LAMP
 
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HERE IS SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE LIGHT
 
Thank you for your interest, yes I am making them but now in a Surefire clone of the highest quality that is even thicker in the barrel (stronger) after the drilling operation.
Also the new lamps are fantastic, 350 lumens but with more throw and almost the same flood.
They are rechargeable
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Thank you for e-mailing me.
I have been buying and testing lights for a long time, I am also the maker of the Borealis 1150 lumens flashlight, my website is  www.blackbearflashlights.com
 
Not long ago I have the idea of putting an oversized  rechargeable Lithium Ion battery in a Surefire 6P in which I drilled a larger hole to fit the battery. This together with some exceptional LED lamps provided a lot of lumens plus rechargeable capabilities.
 
Now I am using a Surefire clone but with a thicker barrel, so after drilling the hole much more material is left in the barrel and the light is stronger, at the same time the quality is even better than the original Surefire.
 
For a flashlight I have the glossy anodized for $135 or the matte black hard anodized for $145
  
The weapon light is $175 for the glossy or $185 for the matte black
 
I recommend my 5 level lamp at 350/175/50/SOS/strobe lumens is the only multifunction lamp that is controlled by the tail cap switch.
 
FOR THE WEAPON LIGHT I RECOMMEND ONLY THE  ONE LEVEL 350 LUMENS LAMP
 
The light is 5 1/4  long and 5 oz. cost $135 shipped
 
 
EXPLANATION OF THE 5 LEVEL LAMP
 
Yes it does have a regular tail cap click switch, and yes the one level lamp  is 350 lumens.
I also have another lamp which is 5 levels (make more sense in a flashlight) the top level is 350 lumens.
 
First level    350 lumens for 2 hours
second level 175 lumens for 4 hours
third level       50 lumens for 9 hours
350 lumens SOS
350 lumens strobe
 
You click the light on and the last level used will be on, then to change levels you just half click. At any moment you full click to turn it off
Really very neat.
 
The new lamps are exceptioptal, very long throw and at the same time plenty of flood
 
The weapon light is available in matte black hard anodized type III also, it is $185 shipped
 
 The glossy anodized is $135 (as a flashlight, no pressure pad switch or ring mount)
shipped and with charger.
 
The new Li Ion battery is 2600 mah, the best battery in the market, good for 1,000 recharges. extra batteries are $23 each (if you need extra run time)
 
PAYMENT
Paypal at
jcharles11784@yahoo.com
or I can send you a paypal request and you pay it to paypal with your credit card.
or send me a money order, or if you have the time, personal check.
 
Looking forward to be of service
Juan C
www.blackbearflashlights.com
 
MAKER OF THE BOREALIS 1150 LUMENS FLASHLIGHT
 
SOME EXTRA INFORMATION
 
RING MOUNTS FOR TACTICAL LIGHTS
 It comes with an all steel quick detach LEVER mount
If you are concerned with weight, I also have an all aluminum ring mount, but you need a coin to detach. (your choice)
 
The battery is fantastic, 2600 mah,
 charger is  included.
Battery life 1,000 recharges (if you want an extra battery cost $23)
Lamp life, LED, 50,000 hours
2 hours run time in the 350 lumens lamp
Waterproof
shock-proof
only 5" long
small head
 
LAMPS:
The 345 lumen lamp is not longer available, the 350 lumens lamp have more throw and almost the same flood as the old 345 lumens, the throw is increased by 20 yards due to a better reflector shape.
 
Another lamp I offer is the 5 function lamp, but I recommend it only for the flashlight.
The tactical light works with a pressure switch pad,you have to keep pressure in the pad to keep the light on, if you release the pressure the next time you click the 5 function lamp will be in another level, which can be disconcerting
 
SWITCHES FOR TACTICAL WEAPON LIGHTS
You get a pressure pad switch with a straight cord, to adjust the lenght of cord, so no cord is hanging loose, you loop once around the base of the ring.
You also get a regular tail cap switch for using when the light is out of the rifle.
 
Velcro is included to support the pressure pad
 
For people that don't like to use a pressure pad switch, I provide an oversized tailcap with forward click and momentary function in exchange for the pressure pad switch. In use you install the light on the left side of the rifle and activate it with the thumb of your grasping the fore end, hand.

Charger included
shipping included
 

Looking forward to be of service
Juan C
Maker of the Borealis 1150 lumens flashlight
www.blackbearflashlights.com
 

The flyer he emailed me included pictures and testimonials.  This will probably be the weapon light for my Broadsword.

EDIT: Here's a link to an old thread with pictures.  The lights and prices are slightly different now.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=263503
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 12:28:55 AM »
    The stats he is putting out... those are impressive figures. 
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 12:40:54 AM »
    Only $200 for a 1000+ lumen light?  Did I miss something?
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 12:45:28 AM »
    I can see why he's using Maglight and Surefire bodies... they have sealed switches and threaded tubes and all... But if he has the skills and equipment to do what he's doing, he can mill his own bodies.
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 01:21:52 AM »
    Probably, but he's a one-man outfit in a garage shop.  It's probably more economical at that level to purchase premade flashlight bodies.  I'm probably going to get that weapon light to try out.
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    « Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 08:57:10 AM »
    Note: We talked some of this guy and his lights here: http://wethearmed.com/index.php/topic,12715.0.html

    My take on what I've seen is that he's just buying import lights and from there it's hard to tell what he's doing with them beyond that because he hasn't seemed to put out much more information about what's being done.

    He pretty much says that here:
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    Now I am using a Surefire clone but with a thicker barrel, so after drilling the hole much more material is left in the barrel and the light is stronger, at the same time the quality is even better than the original Surefire.

    This is partially true, if he's running 18650 batteries they don't fit in a stock surefire tube and they do have to bored over, most of the clones are setup to take them by default. That however doesn't make them better than a surefire.

    I like clone lights, they are really quite good, however they are not usually worth anything near what this guy seems to be charging for them. Under $25 for something that puts out over 100 lumens is a great bargain, if you're looking for anything beyond that you either need to know what they are actually doing to the light to insure it's worth it or go with one of the big name brands to make certain your getting a good light.

    Just my 2 cents of course but I've done a fair bit with modern tac lights and there are quite a few guys out there selling Chinese clones at inflated prices without doing much else to them but reboxing them.

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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 07:58:50 PM »
    Heh.  BTW, thanks for that link to DX Luke.  Looks like I will be spending a lot of money there in the future.
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 01:08:04 PM »
    I won't buy a Surefire.  Overpriced and comparatively dim.  I was issued a Surefire multifunction flashlight, worth about $300.  My $40 Steamlight Polytac is considerably brighter.  To get a bright Surefire, you have to pay extra for their "turbo heads".

    They're getting a little better now.  You can find G2 plastic lights with 120 lumen LED heads on them now, for only a little bit more money than the Streamlight polymer light.  Their weapon lights remain very expensive, which is why most people end up bolting a G2 onto their rifle instead.
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 01:16:56 PM »
    The other light I'm considering is the 4Sevens Maelstrom.  I looked at them at SHOT and was very impressed.  I don't require the multi-function head on a weapon light, though.

    In the interim I'll probably bolt my Streamlight TLR-1 on there.
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 05:43:22 PM »
    I'm a big fan of the Eveready Hardcase lights... I have two now and they get used more than anything. 
    I have a lot of other lights... Surefires, Streamlights, and such.  I've come to the conclusion that I don't like any light running on a CR123 type 3v light. 
    I like lights that run on a pair of AA batteries.  I can put in those 8x Advanced Lithiums and that light will out last a 123 powered Surefire by a factor of 4 and be plenty bright for anything I am doing. 
    I don't need to scorch retinas and boil water with my flashlight.  I just want to be able to illuminate my situation when its dark.  That's it.  My Surefires are always dead and my AA lights are always working.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 07:15:55 PM »
    The more that I read on Candle Power forums, the more that I understand why that is so George.

    Looking at the CR123 it seems like a transitional technology, soon to be obsolete, like the betamax.

    There is a s___ pile of 3.7v AA equivelents now that pump out tons of juice, and yet the LED devices that use them stillcan use regular AA's.

    I'm currently looking at a 1 AA pocket clip mod that theoretically delivers over 200 lm.
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    « Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 08:03:37 PM »
    I'm currently looking at a 1 AA pocket clip mod that theoretically delivers over 200 lm.

    I'm not sure if you've looked at some of the AA lights on DX or not, but I've seen several in hand that rival my little single CR123 light which I would say puts out somewhere near 100 lumens or so. Once this one kicks the bucket I might replace it with one of the AA versions but with rechargeable CR123's I don't really worry about it much. Every few weeks I go and recharge all my batteries for my lights and then forget about it for another couple weeks to a month.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 09:44:07 PM »
    I'm not sure if you've looked at some of the AA lights on DX or not, but I've seen several in hand that rival my little single CR123 light which I would say puts out somewhere near 100 lumens or so. Once this one kicks the bucket I might replace it with one of the AA versions but with rechargeable CR123's I don't really worry about it much. Every few weeks I go and recharge all my batteries for my lights and then forget about it for another couple weeks to a month.

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    Those are exactly what I am looking at Luke.  In particular, an AKOray designed to handle a rechargable 14500.  Supposed to be a 220 lm light, but for the size, even if its only 100 I'll be happy.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/akoray-k-106-cree-q5-wc-220-lumen-led-flashlight-with-clip-1-aa-1-14500-47320


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    « Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 09:55:53 PM »
    I'm not familiar with that brand but brand of course over there is one of those things that doesn't matter much;)

    Generally I've stuck with ultrafire lights, they haven't given me a lemon yet. Since I'm on the pda I can't easily drop a link but take a look at the Ultrafire AA 14500 battery lights.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 10:09:45 PM »
    For sure.  I looked through the Ultrafires, but their similar sized models were CR123.  I like the fact that with the AKOray you can use the high output 14500 or a conventional AA.  I've got a lot of AA's in storage.  Along with about 1/2 dozen incan mini-maglites.  ::)
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 08:47:21 AM »
    Yeah there are a ton of lights on that site;) Here are a couple I just hit on a search for "Ultrafire AA" which got me a few bad results but most were the ones I was thinking of;)

    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-k10-cree-xpe-r5-6-mode-350-lumen-led-flashlight-with-strap-1-aa-1-14500-50122

    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-a10-ha-iii-cree-q5-wc-ha-iii-220-lumen-led-flashlight-1-aa-1-14500-19187

    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-a1-cree-q5-wc-5-mode-230-lumen-led-flashlight-grey-1-cr123a-16844

    If I'm not mistaken I've handled all three of those and they were all pretty dang good. Generally in their ratings I would say Half in most cases is probably about right, but that still makes for a pretty good light;)

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    « Reply #16 on: May 23, 2011, 02:31:05 AM »
    I can understand why he Maglight Surefire and organs to help ... closed switches, and threaded pipe and more ... But if the skills and equipment to do what he does, has its own windmill installations.
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    « Reply #17 on: May 23, 2011, 08:30:35 AM »
    Wait... wut?


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    « Reply #18 on: May 23, 2011, 09:15:05 AM »
    I'm a big fan of the Eveready Hardcase lights... I have two now and they get used more than anything. 
    I have a lot of other lights... Surefires, Streamlights, and such.  I've come to the conclusion that I don't like any light running on a CR123 type 3v light. 
    I like lights that run on a pair of AA batteries.  I can put in those 8x Advanced Lithiums and that light will out last a 123 powered Surefire by a factor of 4 and be plenty bright for anything I am doing. 
    I don't need to scorch retinas and boil water with my flashlight.  I just want to be able to illuminate my situation when its dark.  That's it.  My Surefires are always dead and my AA lights are always working.

    Same here. I have my lights and radios geared toward AA with a very few in AAA. 123's are cost prohibitive and a general pain in the neck.
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    « Reply #19 on: May 23, 2011, 11:37:21 AM »
    Wait... wut?


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    « Reply #20 on: May 23, 2011, 12:10:35 PM »
    Yup, it was a spam bot and it has been banned.
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    Re: Black Bear Flashlights
    « Reply #21 on: May 23, 2011, 06:50:33 PM »
    As an update:

    I got the AKOray pictured above an have been running it with the 14500 batteries.  It is very handy.  I can carry it clipped into a jacket breast pocket unobtrusively.  Construction is very good.  Good threads, good general machining, good seals make it water resistant in the rain, although I haven't put it under water yet.  It is quite bright.  Based on other lights I have used, I would gauge it at about 140 lumen.  Not the 220 advertised, but not too bad, either.

    My only complaint would be that when the battery runs out, it straight up goes dead.  No dimming or other indications.  Just dead.  And I think that the total battery life is relatively short.  I haven't run it continuous until it dies yet to find out for sure, but using it for yard checks and so forth, I would guess battery life at 20-30 min total.

    Still, I'v sufficiently impressed to have ordered some of the AAA versions of the same light and some 10440 batteries to play around with.
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