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« on: May 04, 2010, 04:28:54 PM »
I'm in need of a back up handgun. The conditions that need to be met are:
1. Less than or equal to $525 new
2. Concealable
3. .40 cal for ammo commonality with my duty weapon
4. Absolutley, Totally reliable.

I am open to suggestions and would like to hear what you all think.

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 04:35:20 PM »
Glock 27.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 04:41:39 PM »
Quote from: Desert Rat on May 04, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
Glock 27.

Given the criteria, that's pretty much it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 04:42:02 PM »
Dumb question, I know, but does the Glock 27 have a single or double stack mag?
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 04:42:50 PM »
Quote from: Desert Rat on May 04, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
Glock 27.

In your price range, with those requirements, the Glock is tough to beat.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 04:43:00 PM »
Quote from: Desert Rat on May 04, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
Glock 27.

Or a G23.

Quote from: Choas1C on May 04, 2010, 04:42:02 PM
Dumb question, I know, but does the Glock 27 have a single or double stack mag?

Yes.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 04:44:29 PM »
Quote from: Choas1C on May 04, 2010, 04:42:02 PM
Dumb question, I know, but does the Glock 27 have a single or double stack mag?

Double stack. Capacity is 9 rounds with flush fitting magazines.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 04:44:53 PM »
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Yes.

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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 04:47:42 PM »
What about a Kahr?  You can get them in .40, and they are a lot thinner than that Glock.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 04:49:10 PM »
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What about a Kahr?  You can get them in .40, and they are a lot thinner than that Glock.

They tend to be a bit more than $525.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2010, 04:49:18 PM »
What is your duty gun? Might be a good idea to get the compact version of that gun to keep everything common, not just the ammo.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2010, 04:52:49 PM »
  Kahr sounds like a good plan.  Glock Possibly.

  Question: What about a Sig 239?  I haven't seen one in person (Friggin Montana Hates Sig Sauers I think....), but I thought they were relatively small?  Not a tiny gun, but just a little bigger than the small Glocks.

   P.S.  Kahr's more than $525?  Woah...I should look into them better....Maybe I shoulda picked that one up for $400  Hiding under a chair.....It was a 9MM though. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 04:53:23 PM »
I carry a bit of an odd ball - A Wahlther P99 in .40 S&W.

Thinner would be major plus. I've shot Glocks before and they feel overly thick in my hand. However, actually owning one and shooting it on a regular basis would probably resolve that issue. I have no experience with Kahr products. Any recomendations on a Kahr model to look at? With another month or too of saving I can expand my price range a couple of hundred bucks.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2010, 04:59:54 PM »
Kahr CW40 MSRPs at $549. A tad outside your price range, but not by much. Kahr's are supposed to be really good guns, but the ones larger than 9mm (especially the polymer-framed guns) tend to have pretty significant recoil.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2010, 05:02:45 PM »
The Kahr Mk40 and PM40 are a lot more compact (what I think of as being backup sized), but the MSRP is around $900 and will retail around $650-700.
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2010, 05:05:00 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 05:10:45 PM »
Quote from: Choas1C on May 04, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
I carry a bit of an odd ball - A Wahlther P99 in .40 S&W.

Hmm... no mini version of that... I was expecting M&P or Sig or PX4...

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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 05:12:57 PM »
Looking at the Kahr PM40 on their website. That looks like that will make the short list.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 05:43:34 PM »
CZ 2075 RAMI maybe?  They mak them in both 9mm and .40.  Might be a little big though.
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 05:49:23 PM »
I hadn't thought of CZ. I like the fact that it's DA/SA. That fact might be enough to offset its somewhat larger size.
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 06:07:06 PM »
Try this Kahr, slim, single stack .40 S&W with enough grip to hang on to.  Usually runs under $400 over the counter, only comes with one magazine, but I have seen the .40 cal mags at two local dealers for about $40.

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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 10:35:29 PM »
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CZ 2075 RAMI maybe?  They mak them in both 9mm and .40.  Might be a little big though.

From what I've been hearing, the Ramis have been having issues. The Rami is also quite a chunk in weight.

Glock 27 if you carry a 22, 23, or 35. M&P .40C would also not be a bad choice.

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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 03:03:38 AM »
Go with the G27.  That was my secondary when I carried a 22. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 11:37:50 AM »
I'll step out and say a CPO Sig 229.  I carry one almost every day.  Not too much weight, accurate, good capacity, easy to shoot and shoots .40 like a pussy cat.  A CPO can be had for under your price limit.  The 239 is awesome and I'd recommend it but for 525 not sure if you'd be able to find one, as most run close to 600.
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 11:52:02 AM »
The 239 would be a decent bug but the 229 seems more like a primary. A little too big for a bug.
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