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« on: November 08, 2008, 09:44:33 PM »

We have a lot of folks in the land of gundom freaked out and buying guns, especially "assault rifles" and high capacity mags.  Many recent buyers are people that have never had an inclination to do so prior to the election.  Human nature here- "You can't have/do that." answered with  "OH YEAH?!"  We have folks screaming about "price gouging".  That's bunk.  It's capitalism.  Supply and demand  dictate market prices.

This leads to a lot of us that have always been into firearms to get a little upset and demeaning towards the new guys- "They're just doing it to do it while they can, they're no help to the RKBA cause.  And they're driving up the prices true gun enthusiasts have to pay"  or a similar response.  I'm seeing this on the majority of gun boards around the web.

How 'bout this-  Instead of getting upset with them, befriend them.  Include them.  They've got the first spark, the one we all felt when WE acquired OUR first firearm!  Somebody took us under their wing in the beginning.  We have the opportunity to do that for others on an unprecedented and massive scale.  Let's fan the flames of freedom and self reliance.  Offer to take them to the range, offer to show them proper firearms handling.  In other words, bring them into the fold.  Complaining about them is nothing but counterproductive.

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 11:07:27 PM »

I love the idea of new gun owners buying evil black rifles (EBRs)!  The next time that Chuckie or Dianne brings up "reasonable" gun control like banning these weapons, every new purchaser is a potential vote for the opposition candidate.

Let's face it, we will never convince the Old Guard Democrats that they are wrong on gun control.  Our best strategy is to make gun control a "third rail" that ends the political careers of those who try to implement it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 11:16:16 PM »

I think that this is the best thing that could happen. It sends a strong message to Washington that gun legislation is not popular with the populace. We could not buy the kind of press that we are getting right now, front page articles in papers, sky rocketing gun sales on the evening news, and guess what? They are actually attributing the escalation in sales to Obama. I even saw one gun store owner saying that he had customers wearing Obama pins and T-shirts buying guns!
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 01:13:44 AM »

You think they care?
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 01:21:50 AM »

I love EBR's and I never thought I would.  I bought mine at first because some U.S. Senators dont want me to have them.  Now I love them.  If the Govt had never made it an issuse I might have never bought one.

I'm a hunter and I have seen the look on some hunters when they see the EBR's.  I then start the education on why I have one and that the 2ndA isnt about Hunting.....hunting is a privilege NOT A RIGHT. Its amazing, some Hunters can gut large animals but get philosophically squemish on the nature of the 2ndA. Yes it is in the Constitution to hunt politicians..if need be.  EBR's is a class of guns that I have seen really test the stomach of some in the "gun community".  Its funny, every hunter's traditional bolt action rifle is a great sniper rifle.  I point that out and I do see lightbulbs go off.  keep educating I guess.

I see people everywhere that have EBR's Its great
I love the unintended consequences of the AW's ban of 94-04'...Its so typical of Govt action

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 11:28:08 AM »

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No. Not really. However, I am trying to be optimistic, which is a big change for me. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 11:45:12 AM »

Well, here's my take on it.  This is from my blog. http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/gun-sales-up-ten-billion-percent/

And that was written before Saturday. Saturday was the single busiest day we've ever had. We had something like 34 cars in our parking lot at one point. I'm not that big of a gunshop guys. That's a lot of friggin' people.  We had a CCW class on Saturday, and students bought guns during the breaks!
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 04:53:07 PM »

Cheaper Than Dirt did over one hundred thousand dollars of sales on The Day After (Nov 5th).
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2008, 06:05:48 PM »

I caught a few minutes of a piece on ABC evening news the other night (I wasn't watching it, my Obama-voting roommate was) about the rush on the gun market. They had some guy who was supposedly a "gun control expert" talking about how Obama likely won't address guns in his first term. There were a bunch of gun dealers talking about the jump in business, and even one that was very outspoken about his confidence that Obama would try another AWB. But the part I was waiting for came as the Anchor wrapped up the story from the news room saying something about Americans stocking up on "deadly weapons." I muttered ***hole loud enough to hear it, and left the room.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 09:08:25 PM »

Signed up three new NRA members today.  And more tommorow.  Given what the situation is, anyone who spends a grand plus on guns or ammo, but won't spring under 50 bucks for a 1 year membership is honestly an idiot in my view.  Think on it.  Active or not(for now) means nothing.  The NRA telling Obama on day one that their membership roles have doulbled?  THAT speaks loud and clear. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2008, 09:17:34 PM »

Signed up three new NRA members today.  And more tommorow.  Given what the situation is, anyone who spends a grand plus on guns or ammo, but won't spring under 50 bucks for a 1 year membership is honestly an idiot in my view.  Think on it.  Active or not(for now) means nothing.  The NRA telling Pbama on day one that their membership roles have doulbled?  THAT speaks loud and clear. 

YES!  I'm pleased to know of 2 more NRA members added since last Wednesday, both gunowners who just kind of took it all for granted and never got active before.

I think we need to get people to join the NRA, and also to use the NRA-ILA part of their membership (I think you have to activate that part of your membership to get the email alerts).  I am encouraged with the response just in the circle of people I know and the people that they know.  And, have the people you know and yourself write emails and letters!  And their friends!

We won't change any liberal's minds probably, but we can at least raise the issue in their minds that they'll be pissing off one big beehive if they do pass anti-gun legislation.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2008, 09:23:17 PM »

I see people everywhere that have EBR's Its great
I love the unintended consequences of the AW's ban of 94-04'...Its so typical of Govt action
It's been said before that Clinton sold more guns than anyone,and it looks Obama is doing the same. Wonder how Mayor Daley feels about that...

I,for one,am giving NRA memberships for Christmas. Imagine how many members the NRA would have if we all did that! And in DC,there is strength in numbers.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2008, 09:28:12 PM »

Any members of my extended family that weren't NRA members got a one year membership from me last year for Christmas.  THIS year, I'm clubbing heads until they renew.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008, 11:18:33 PM »

Here on the west coast, new ebrs are being back ordered, and a
local magazine dealer is OUT without a future date on new stock.
I would think the next hit to be on AMMO.   Most likely is could turn
the ebrs or any firearm into expensive clubs bang head
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2008, 03:14:57 AM »

Thats why I'm planning on learning to reload in the next year. I'll buy a case of 1000rds of everything I shoot, shoot it all, and start all over.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2008, 04:01:47 AM »

You know, until reading this I thought that "EBR" was referring to the US Army's M14 remake.  "Woah!-" I thought "Those things are almost as popular over there as ARs!"  Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2008, 06:02:54 AM »

Any members of my extended family that weren't NRA members got a one year membership from me last year for Christmas.  THIS year, I'm clubbing heads until they renew.

A good theme.  I gave out a couple of those one year ones last year too.   On Nov 5th the mood had shifted to more urgent and I was able to browbeat a few people into joining without the gift membership.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2008, 10:43:40 AM »

   Mr. Doom, looking back on your history of how the camel gets
his nose under the tent,  terminology changes while a game plan
formulates with an end goal of citizen firearms ownership being
eliminated.   If called an ugly black rifle, assault,  maybe a conver-
sion with someones wild thoughts, or whatever.   The mission is
control of ownership, demonize all firearms, and take them away.
Hope there is a game plan for "those who don't like us very much",
to stay where they live.   It seems like government  and the people
south of us have no protection against the drug cartels.  Law of the
land like all those countries that they would rather live in a increased
lawless envirnoment, than trust their citizens with a firearm.   There
is an element out there that wants your firearms, and will never rest.
I'm sure this isn't a recent event as the number of useless firearms laws
to close loopholes, and deemed reasonable are not bang head.   It remains
when guns are outlawed, the bad guy will find and have guns Angry
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2008, 01:35:04 PM »

At the Tulsa Gunshow yesterday I saw the most unlikely mix of people buying hicap pistols and rifles and lots,and lots,and lots of mags and ammo.Yuppies,gays,lesbians,old ladies(black and white),Hispanics,gothics and even a smelly neo hippy vegan or two all buying guns and all of them with very determined looks on their faces.I saw people who I would never have imagined in a million years carry AR15s,SKSs,M11/9 clones,G3 Clones over their shoulders and often carrying a case of ammo.

Something is going on that defies description and while it might lead on to think that WW3 was on the way I would like to hope for just a second that the Obamaites are starting to relaize that they just voted for someone who is going to oppress them and take away their rights and they are preemptively waking up and protecting their rights buy acquiring those things which might soon be denied them regardless of their race or social group.

I'd like to see everyone who votes and pays taxes own an AR or an AK and write their congress critters to the effect that they want their constitutional rights inviolate and uninterpreted by ivy league attorneys FOREVER!
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