Glock 23RTF2

[toad]

A Beretta 92 in 9mm bothers me more than a 1911 in .45 acp.  I know guys who get off shooting .357 mags out of short barrel 5 shot revolvers.  I finger printed  a Kel-Tec 9mm pistol once, I sat it down, made the sign of the cross with my fingers and backed away.   The point were light weight vs. recoil meets can really vary from person to person.  The more you can shoot the more recoil, flash, and bang you can handle 'cause you get used to blocking it out to focus on technique.  The most bothersome recoil for me was out of a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.  It was loaded with handloads.  I'd end up with the barrel pointing straight up no matter what I did.  I felt uncomfortable with the fact that I had that so little of control over the weapon. 

[Khorne]

(shrugs) I'm just not a pistol guy though.   

[GeorgeHill]

I'm a Handgunner more than anything else.  I love pistols.  Some pistols that bothered me:
NAA Guardian .32NAA...
Taurus Total Titanium .357 Snubby...
Deagle .50AE.

[JesseL]

I'm a Handgunner more than anything else.  I love pistols.  Some pistols that bothered me:
NAA Guardian .32NAA...
Taurus Total Titanium .357 Snubby...
Deagle .50AE.

I'll have to let you try out the AMT Backup 380.

A bad gun without equal IMHO.

[HiVelSword]

I'm a Handgunner more than anything else.  I love pistols.  Some pistols that bothered me:
NAA Guardian .32NAA...
Taurus Total Titanium .357 Snubby...
Deagle .50AE.

The DE .50 was for me, a pussycat. Well, for my hands. Not for my head. The empty cases liked to come back at me. I actually had to shift my head to the left at the second the gun fired. If I did that it would only crease the right side of my head.

That was with all three DE .50's I've fired. I tried death gripping it and it fixed it. Launched them just over my head but my groups turned to shyte.

[FMJ]

Is it just me--or right now the only pistols with RTF and that are Gen 4 are only the 17, 19, 22, and 23?

[GeorgeHill]

The RTF2 is actually Gen3 guns with a different texture.  Gen4 has interchangeable back straps, with a different texture yet. 

[FMJ]

Ok. I was somewhat confused in that regard.

How much does a 3 Gen Glock 19 new sell for on avg, right now?

[GeorgeHill]

Ok. I was somewhat confused in that regard.

How much does a 3 Gen Glock 19 new sell for on avg, right now?

Pretty well.  I don't sell a lot.  They are not popular around here.  Which is fine, because we make almost nothing selling Glocks.  Glocks and Rugers are the worst for a profit margin.

[FMJ]

Taking heed of LL's adivce, I suppose this [the 19] would be a good first gun that isn't hard on the wallet.  With the chance that I might be in college and all.  My mother said, that once I finished college completely she might gift me a Tag Heuer watch (which is pretty nice in it's own right) but for that same amount of money, I'd rather get a DW CBOB.  During my college years, I could live with mil-surps and the Glock (and my best friend making fun of me because of said Glock).

I shot a 19 once, and it did not really feel snappy like the 22.  I just need pistol practice, that's all.

How many rounds does the 19 normally hold?  'Cus around here ALL glocks have only ten.

[toad]

Here is a good site for information and branch out from. 
http://www.glockfaq.com/

One thing I noticed after dry firing my Glock a lot, my trigger control on my Llama MiniMax45 has improved.
 Around my area deals on used 9mm glocks are not too hard to find.  .40 and up not so much except for the occasional .45 GAP,. 

[LittleLebowski]

  The G19 holds 15+1.  Glad to see I'm not the only one that the Glock made a better shooter. 

   The Dan Wessons have shot up in price yet they're not triple nor even double the value of a good Glock.

[toad]

Oh yeah, well, well, you ,you, just try to beat a chicken to death with an empty Glock vs an empty Dan Wesson

[bmitchell]

I dunno...polymer pistols still have pretty weighty slides.
I've never used anything but a 1911 as a hammer though, and that only to fix itself.

Ben

[Laq]

How much does a 3 Gen Glock 19 new sell for on avg, right now?

FWIW, picked mine up for $519 new.  The gun has been an absolute joy thus far, ate everything I fed it at the range and kept on ticking.  I think I might be a Glock convert now...   

[LittleLebowski]

Oh yeah, well, well, you ,you, just try to beat a chicken to death with an empty Glock vs an empty Dan Wesson

  I sincerely doubt anyone would ignore being hit with a Glock, polymer or not. 

[bmitchell]

I wouldn't want to get hit by one.

Ben

[GeorgeHill]

Oh yeah, well, well, you ,you, just try to beat a chicken to death with an empty Glock vs an empty Dan Wesson

You know, I just don't need to know what you do to your chicken.... just wear safety glasses because we don't want you to go blind doing it.

[bmitchell]

That's just not right.

Ben

[toad]

As you probably know I started a new thread over the use of a pistol as an expedient club.  "Clubbing, traditional and neo."

More often than not I carry a Llama MiniMax 45.  The problem is that some parts are hard to find and a total detail strip entails removing the rear sight.  It shoots well but I don't want to shoot it much.  I was looking for a full size .45 acp 1911 for a range gun to practice with and for a home defense gun.  Couldn't find one that I liked or trusted that wouldn't end up costing me close to a grand.  I ended up the used G31.  What gets me is that it is lighter than the MiniMax 45 even though it has an inch more of barrel and it has 15 +1 rounds to the Mini's 6 + 1.   So even though the G31 was originally going to be the range/practice and home defense pistol, as soon as my Crossbreed OWB holster gets here the Mini goes into a drawer.

[LittleLebowski]

  George, send me your shipping address via PM. 

[sohmdaddy]

  I sincerely doubt anyone would ignore being hit with a Glock, polymer or not. 

Remember that scene in Clear and Present Danger where Willem Dafoe whaps Harrison Ford with a Glock? Harrison didn't look too happy about it.

[GeorgeHill]

 
That's called Acting.  WDF could have whipped him with a feather duster.

[LittleLebowski]

  Harrison Ford, another unwelcome antigunner in the state of Wyoming.....

[Harm]

Side Note - HF is one of those actors that really gets into it.  When filming Air Force One he kept egging on Gary Oldman to hit him harder in the retakes until Oldman hit him so hard it was Fords real blood he spit.  That and he repeatedly breaks ribs, fingers etc. on shoots doing his own stunts, making sure it's as close to real as possible.  Not saying that particular shot was real, no director wants to knock out a 20mil star but if it was it wouldn't suprise me.  

Although honestly C&PD was my least favorite Jack Ryan movie.