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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2010, 06:01:51 PM »

While ammo is a complete DIY situation, most states have no restriction against hunting with the 8ga other than the Federal ban hunting migratory birds with it.
So deer, turkey, squirrel, whale, etc... are all game (literally).

Well, I'll be needin' this fer squirrels n sich...
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2010, 06:17:54 PM »

Well, I'll be needin' this fer squirrels n sich...


2.5oz of #7 should do the trick. 
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2010, 10:32:08 PM »

Butch Searcy current production 4 bore rifle:


For a few dollars more I bet you could order spare shotgun barrels.
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2010, 03:28:52 PM »

Don't they make 8 gauge guns and shells for industrial purposes?  Something about blowing bits of material off the walls of kilns or boilers or something? 
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2010, 03:37:04 PM »

8 Gauge slugs... for when you have to stop that rampaging dump truck RIGHT NOW!

Egad man those things make my shoulder hurt just looking at them.
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2010, 04:55:26 PM »

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Utah does have restrictions on it.  Basically you can't do any bird hunting with it.  But it is legal for big game and unprotected wildlife- might make an interesting coyote gun.  I wonder what kind of range you could get out of it?

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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2010, 08:02:18 PM »

Utah does have restrictions on it.  Basically you can't do any bird hunting with it.  But it is legal for big game and unprotected wildlife- might make an interesting coyote gun.  I wonder what kind of range you could get out of it?

I'd say it is going to depend on the pattern.  There aren't more than a couple shotcup wads available, so not as much latitude to fine tune thing as the 12 or even 10ga.  It isn't going to be any LESS because pattern density will be increased.
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2010, 07:44:37 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2010, 08:24:38 PM »

Didn't see any mention of this, but back in the 70's (yeah I'm that old) Ithica had a 10g police only  semi-auto called the "Roadblocker". Always thought it would be good for a mad bulldozer or an enraged armoured car. Morning Coffee and Paper
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2010, 08:25:59 PM »

  Montana doesn't allow hunting of anything above 10 gauge....sucks....

   I would like one..Then again, 10 gauge is plenty usefull.    8 gauge is just overbore  Grin

  P.S.  Dad owns a double barreled 10.  Zabalay? Made in spain, pretty well made, and shoots good.   Has a LOT of coyotes under it's belt.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2010, 01:33:37 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2010, 02:38:00 PM »

Here kitty kitty kitty....  Evil


I need one of these, we're overrun with ferals.
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« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2010, 12:47:43 AM »

Here kitty kitty kitty....  Evil


I need one of these, we're overrun with ferals.

3oz of lead BB should be good for cats out to 75 yards or so.   Put out some bait and you might be able to bag several with the same shot.
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2010, 12:49:12 AM »

Ed says we only need a couple more people to commit to the rebore before it's a go.
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2010, 06:39:54 PM »

So, just so I've got this right, it's going to be a single shot, break action, right?   Price?  I thought I saw $500 ish mentioned.. 

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« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2010, 11:23:00 AM »

So, just so I've got this right, it's going to be a single shot, break action, right?   Price?  I thought I saw $500 ish mentioned.. 

If don't already have a H&R or NEF 10ga build on the larger SBR frame you'll need one of these to start:

Model SB2-103

They could be had last fall for $175.  They are produced once a year (in the summer) and the major distributors are sold out.  You might be able to get one now, but the price will be higher.  The tooling to do the rebore isn't going to be ready for a couple of months so I'm going to wait (you don't want to be the guinea pig with a new tool or process anyway).

You send the barrel off to be rebored.  The price for the rebore is currently estimated at <$300.  I found out this weekend that the price doesn't included a new chamber.  Ed will cut the chamber for $75. 

Adds up to $550 plus shipping the barrel twice (assuming the price of the base gun doesn't go up).

Ed will be providing cases with the belt already swaged off.  I'd going to buy cases from him vs. the tooling to do it myself.  If you already reload, the only other thing you probably will need to buy is a $30 roll crimp tool (assuming you have drill at home).
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« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2010, 12:17:40 PM »

If don't already have a H&R or NEF 10ga build on the larger SBR frame you'll need one of these to start:

Model SB2-103

They could be had last fall for $175.  They are produced once a year (in the summer) and the major distributors are sold out.  You might be able to get one now, but the price will be higher.  The tooling to do the rebore isn't going to be ready for a couple of months so I'm going to wait (you don't want to be the guinea pig with a new tool or process anyway).

You send the barrel off to be rebored.  The price for the rebore is currently estimated at <$300.  I found out this weekend that the price doesn't included a new chamber.  Ed will cut the chamber for $75. 

Adds up to $550 plus shipping the barrel twice (assuming the price of the base gun doesn't go up).

Ed will be providing cases with the belt already swaged off.  I'd going to buy cases from him vs. the tooling to do it myself.  If you already reload, the only other thing you probably will need to buy is a $30 roll crimp tool (assuming you have drill at home).

Okay, say everything goes as planned. And it it a resounding success. Could I then send a side by side 10 or is it a single barrel only proposition?

(Andy thinks he should have probably read every post before asking that)
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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2010, 12:24:45 PM »

Okay, say everything goes as planned. And it it a resounding success. Could I then send a side by side 10 or is it a single barrel only proposition?

(Andy thinks he should have probably read every post before asking that)

So long as the the barrels are thick enough and the action is strong enough.  Some of the big Spanish goose guns my qualify, but I'd leave the determination up to somebody that knows more than I.  10ga to 8ga is a huge step. The NEF has been proven. 
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2010, 01:38:05 PM »

So long as the the barrels are thick enough and the action is strong enough.  Some of the big Spanish goose guns my qualify, but I'd leave the determination up to somebody that knows more than I.  10ga to 8ga is a huge step. The NEF has been proven. 

Well, methinks that I need to start a petition to coax NEF into making a 10 ga side by side.... Devil LOL
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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2010, 01:43:43 PM »

Good luck with that.  They've shown no interest in providing their rifles chambered fro various suitable cartridges when distributors have called with sizable orders.   The just aren't interested.
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« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2010, 02:03:52 PM »

I bet Deer Hunter could figure out a way to make a double out of two singles.
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2010, 10:20:06 PM »

Where dos one find ammunition and what are the ballistics?  I like and I want.
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2010, 03:19:05 PM »

Any info on reloading?  I found wads and shellshttp://www.ballisticproducts.com here   and brasshttp://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/page7.html here. Any new info? Contact info for Ed?
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« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2010, 12:25:30 PM »

Don't they make 8 gauge guns and shells for industrial purposes?  Something about blowing bits of material off the walls of kilns or boilers or something? 

Yep. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/24/remingtons-cannon-the-masterblaster/

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« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2010, 05:07:10 PM »

I had a very up close and personal contact with an 8ga  many years ago.  My brother and I took one out of my grandpa's gun case to fire it. It was the only shotgun in there that had the funny looking "cocking things" on the back and looked like it had come from the civil war.  We found the 8 ga stamp on the barrel and then found some even older 8ga shells in his store.  They were still made of Paper so that should tell you what we were dealing with. " I am still amazed we didn't kill one another or someone else that day!"  The good Lord above was looking down on two crazy kids.
 We went to the edge of his property, it took both of us to prop this thing on the fence rail.   When I pulled the trigger on the first barrel  it was like a an atom bomb went off.  There was so much smoke, my brother who was standing off to the side said fire shot out the barrel three feet , when your  seven it must have looked like ten cause the look on his face was undiscribable.  Of course that could have been because of the look on my face. the butt of the gun roared back broke my nose split my lip, and almost knock out my front teeth. I was bleeding like a stuck pig. My nose looked like it had been smashed by Mike Tyson  it felt like it too!
We drug the gun home put it back in the case and did not say a word. I said I fell out of our fort in the back yard. However, the doctor clearly could see the imprint of the butt plate of something else .  My  Grandpa knew something was up,he pulled me aside when i got home from the hospital.  But instead of a butt whippin, All he ever said to me was-  you will never disrespect the awesome power a firearm has ever again will you?  That lesson has lived with me from that day on..
Now that sweet side by side  reside in my gun case passed down to me so that some day I will pass it on to my son.    But oh what a story she can tell !
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