Hi-Point throwdown

[sohmdaddy]

I carry a Sig 229 as my carry gun. It's heavier than Glocks, HKs, J-Frame revolvers, etc. . . .

One time I saw a Hi-point at a gunshop and when I picked it up, my first thought was, "Good lord, this thing is really heavy!!!!"  So that is my reason for not getting one.

I am interested to see how durable they are, though.

[Stratcat79]

Which model did he get?  I looked at their manuals and didn't see any that said not to disassemble it (most said that it should be disassembled and cleaned after 1,500-2,000 rounds)...

http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/manuals/manuals.html

Just the 9mm one...I didnt research too heavily into it...It seemed that disassembly involved holding this down, hammering out that pin...just a general PITA.

[akodo]

What would it take for them to start selling a decent product that can compete with the big boys?  Or would that ever happen?

I don't own one, but my understanding is their carbine IS a decent product, and competes with the 'big boys'...but the whole 9mm carbine market is kind of the 'kiddie pool' of the gun world.

[MarshallDodge]

Hi-Points are a $150 dollar gun.  You are getting your money's worth when you buy one but nothing more.  They are not a $150 M&P or Glock.  I realize that there are those out there that can really only afford a low cost gun but they are not reliable and do not hold up under long term use, two requirements that I have for a pistol that I would carry. 

Recently I had to lend one of my pistols to a guy in our class who broke a pin in his and I don't think the gun had that many rounds through it.  When my local pawn shop owner, who is a Taurus fan, will not purchase or sell Hi-Point pistols, then I call that a clue.

[Vern357]

My local guy doesnt carry them, but its not because they are bad guns but because of the kind of people that come in to buy them.

[moose42]

I don't know but I have a suspicious feeling that the Hi-Point is going to go down hard during a match.  Like throw the gun away HARD.  But that's just me. 

I also can't stand how freaking UGLY they are.  I mean Glocks look downright pretty in comparison.

[Vern357]

I think it will hold up fine, shoot and cycle fine, but not place well due to the limited mag capacity and poor ergonomics and sights.

[W.Thornside]

When my local pawn shop owner, who is a Taurus fan, will not purchase or sell Hi-Point pistols, then I call that a clue.

A clue that he doesn't make enough money on them. He's not going to stop selling Glocks if they start having a 50% failure rate, nor is he going to start selling the Hi-Point if it becomes 100% reliable.

[Mutant Musket]

http://firearm.skidome.org/GT9hpt.html

[Diomed]

My local guy doesnt carry them, but its not because they are bad guns but because of the kind of people that come in to buy them.

Same here.

He doesn't dislike them - thinks they're pretty good for what they are - but virtually every one sold had an ATF trace request come with it. Way too much hassle for the money.

[MarshallDodge]

A clue that he doesn't make enough money on them. He's not going to stop selling Glocks if they start having a 50% failure rate, nor is he going to start selling the Hi-Point if it becomes 100% reliable.

All I can tell you is that he stated his reasons were because of safety, the blowback action being the main concern.  I am not saying he is a professional gunsmith but he knows his way around guns and has taught me a few things to look for when making a used gun purchase.